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re: Former Freeze Assistant Discusses AU
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:41 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:41 pm to Auburn1968
quote:I want to know why we're doing this. I want to hear the logic. Maybe it's as simple as you dont want to be predictable. We were blitzing early and often in the first half. Maybe it's as simple as you're blitzing on 2nd down late in the game and the guys aren't as fresh as they were early? I don't know. Maybe there's smart reasons most football coaches would agree with. Dj is widely lauded as a great coach so I want to hear him speak on it.
The D would work a lot better without those 3 man fronts laid out on a silver platter in 3rd and long.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:52 pm to The_SwAUggford
quote:Incompetence pays so well at AU that they don't have to wake up for work for years.quote:I want to know why we're doing this
: The D would work a lot better without those 3 man fronts laid out on a silver platter in 3rd and long.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:54 pm to awestruck
Ignorant take
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:56 pm to The_SwAUggford
Just working with what's given.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 3:58 pm to awestruck
No you're not. You're ignoring djs track record.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 4:18 pm to jangalang
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I hope so. I am ready for a 1000 yard receiver. Please be KLS.
Would be a pretty funny middle finger to Penn State and James Franklin
Posted on 9/25/24 at 5:04 pm to AUstar
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Basically he said he just does not understand why Thorne or Hank cannot "get it." He said he coached with Freeze for years and never saw a QB as confused as those guys.
I wonder if the new radio communication helmets can create more confusion than is helpful.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:03 pm to The_SwAUggford
quote:It's being done because conventional football wisdom dictates that you drop more into coverage on 3rd and long. Unfortunately, we either don't have the talent or the experience to execute that defensive scheme. Now that the coaches have worn out the "I think things will improve" and will be forced to go to unconventional defense on 3rd and long situations. Surely they have come the realization that we cannot reliably get pressure with only a 3 man front and will have to gamble and bring someone as a blitzer. I can only hope.
I want to know why we're doing this. I want to hear the logic
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:46 pm to greygoose
quote:We actually got green out the pocket on a 3 man rush a few times. I remember specifically it was keyron on one.
Surely they have come the realization that we cannot reliably get pressure with only a 3 man front
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:56 pm to The_SwAUggford
Yea the 3 man fronts that don’t make sense are when we are using them on 1st and 2nd down. We did that far less against Arky. Problem is our pass coverage is way too relaxed. Guys focus way too much on covering an area and not adapting when guys run into their zone.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 7:57 pm to greygoose
Here's Siskey on another podcast talking about AU. Interesting interview.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:03 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Id buy that logic. I wonder if we see the gameplan change for OU. Penalties and green's legs killed us more than anything on 3rd and longs.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:03 pm to AUstar
We lost two games, both close and in both we had 5 turnovers
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:25 pm to The_SwAUggford
Yep. That 3rd and 19 bomb was a three man rush that collapsed the pocket and got him out on the edge pretty quickly. Problem was the backend just lost everyone. Our safeties are way too concerned with the running QB’s, when that is what the Lb’s should be concerned with. Happened against Cal and NM too. Every time the QB got outside the pocket, the backend just all started staring at him and reacting to him, even though there were layers of defenders in front of them.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:41 pm to The_SwAUggford
quote:The key word to my post was "reliably". We lost the IB last year due to a 3 man rush on 4th and SUPER long. How many times do we need to see a 3rd and long converted this season, to finally get the point that we Nick Fairly isn't on this team?
We actually got green out the pocket on a 3 man rush a few times. I remember specifically it was keyron on one.
The point is, if you can't pressure rushing 3, and the QB has all day to find an open receiver, he will most likely end up finding an open receiver.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:45 pm to greygoose
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We lost the IB last year due to a 3 man rush on 4th and SUPER long.
2 man rush
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:55 pm to Beachbum87
quote:I guess my mind tried to compensate for that nightmare.
2 man rush
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:03 pm to greygoose
Your overall point is still valid. We do it too much for our pass rush ability. I’ve seen Every major team this year call similar plays in similar situations, so it is fine to do. I think we just do it too much and telegraph it too much.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:08 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Keionte mf Scott being asked to play every position in the secondary played into it too. Silver lining: if we've identified the issue I'm sure dj has too. Harsh reality: will the coaching translate to the game? I doubt dj is just now noticing the issue ya know
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:36 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:It's extremely conventional wisdom, regardless if it's HS, college, NFL, or Madden on Playstation. You get an opponent in a 3rd and long, you drop a lot of people back and rush few. Make them, make the play with the odds in your favor. Unfortunately, we don't have the horses on the line OR in the d-backfield, so you HAVE to bring more pass rushers against an empty backfield and hope your defenders can either beat 5 blockers or the pass defenders force a safety valve throw that ends up short of the 1st down marker. Not optimal, but you have to work with what you've got. Otherwise, you end up seeing what we've been seeing.......
Your overall point is still valid. We do it too much for our pass rush ability. I’ve seen Every major team this year call similar plays in similar situations, so it is fine to do. I think we just do it too much and telegraph it too much.
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