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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)

Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:29 pm to
I think this is a fair point about the HBCU aspect. Its a vision he’s selling that I don’t know how it’ll translate to somewhere like Auburn. However, the fact that he has that vision and is able to sell it tells me he is a great recruiter in general.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:34 pm to
Well obviously he’s going to use that sell while at an HBCU. It’s quite literally the only sell the school has. You’re fooling yourself if you think it’s his only sell though. As mentioned, the important thing is that he found something to sell and sold the hell out of it.

There are definitely reasons to be hesitant of Primetime as a HC but talent acquisition isn’t one.
Posted by auburn22
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 3:47 pm to
Bama hates Bill OBrian and his offense. They want him to leave.
Posted by MontyTiger
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

I want one of two things out of the next coach:
1) Elite recruiter that will bring excitement back to the program
OR
2) Elite offensive schemer that can adapt.
Deion fits the first one. Kiffin fits the second one so happy with either of them.

Ill take either. Those would be really good hype hires and i think will bring the program some excitement imo
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:11 pm to
Peter's Updated Top 5 Head Coach list:

1. Prime!

2. Hugh Freeze
3. Lane Kiffen
4. Sam Pittman
5. Todd Monken


Bonus!
Goose Top 5 Head Coach List:

1. Bill Clark
2. Bill O'Brien
3. Hugh Freeze
4. Dan Devine
5. Jangalang!
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

I think this is a fair point about the HBCU aspect. Its a vision he’s selling that I don’t know how it’ll translate to somewhere like Auburn. However, the fact that he has that vision and is able to sell it tells me he is a great recruiter in general.
But what will it tell future prospects about his integrity if he abandons the HBCU for a major (white) college, like Auburn? Or anywhere else, for that matter?

I honestly think he's not doing this for the money, which is why if we even pursue him we're completely wasting our time, whether he's up to the job or not.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:38 pm to


Hopefully corch doesn’t feel like chopped liver.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Your point?

You are a moron.

You are making your whole argument, to hire a particular coach, based on his recruiting a DB and WR. and his massive experience of coach in the SWAC for about 18 months. Other than that, there is nothing else. That is his entire resume.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 4:59 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:55 pm to
Corch will be OL coach. That’s where he is needed and I’m sure he is good with that.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14776 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:58 pm to
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but talent acquisition isn’t one.

And you base this assumption on what? He was coaching high school up until 2020.
Posted by AUFanInSoCal
Orange County
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 4:58 pm to
I doubt he will come to Auburn also. He is on a mission from God for HBCU's.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:12 pm to
He took a pitch that has been made before (unsuccessfully) and made it work for him. I don’t know how anyone can deny Deion is a great recruiter.

I mean anyone that watched Deion in his playing days should’ve known he’d be a great recruiter if he became a coach.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

But what will it tell future prospects about his integrity if he abandons the HBCU for a major (white) college, like Auburn? Or anywhere else, for that matter?

I honestly think he's not doing this for the money, which is why if we even pursue him we're completely wasting our time, whether he's up to the job or not.

How did Saban get Bryce Young out of California. Tua out of Hawaii? Resume and a history of results. Then he can point out how he will be surrounded by top quality players and coaches. Take away the race issue that Sanders is pushing in respect for signing with a HBCU, what does he have? He played in the NFL? So what, so did my HS coach. Auburn has coaches that played in the NFL. Will this "great recruiter" persona that he has acquired going to translate to an SEC, PAC, or Big 10 school? Right now, he's a one trick pony. What happens when he doesn't have that tool?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

But what will it tell future prospects about his integrity if he abandons the HBCU for a major (white) college, like Auburn? Or anywhere else, for that matter?

How did Saban lying through his teeth about the Dolphins/Bama job effect his integrity with prospects? How did Lincoln Riley’s middle of the night move effect his integrity? There’s countless examples of coaches at small schools recruiting guys there and then bolting a month later. It doesn’t effect their ability to recruit
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

You are a moron.

You are making your whole argument, to hire a particular coach, based on his recruiting a DB and WR. and his massive experience of coach in the SWAC for about 18 months. Other than that, there is nothing else. That is his entire resume.

Let the board cast thy votes. Whose candidate should be our HC if it’s down to these 3. Mine or yours.

Primetime

or

Bill Clark or Bill O Brien.

This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Will this "great recruiter" persona that he has acquired going to translate to an SEC, PAC, or Big 10 school? Right now, he's a one trick pony. What happens when he doesn't have that tool?

Personality isn’t much like the 40 yard dash at all.

You keep responding with messages how the greatest college coaches can get their job done but you’ve yet to tell me how Bill Clark is going to get Tua out of California.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:21 pm to
Let’s put Bill O’Brien and Deion in a room with a 5 star prospect.

Who do you think comes out with the signature? I mean that’s just a no brainer in that aspect.

You can argue everything else against Deion and actually have a point. Baffles me that you even question recruiting with him though.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14776 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:28 pm to
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Let’s put Bill O’Brien and Deion in a room with a 5 star prospect.
You're pretty dumb, and so is the kid, if he chooses the coach that's been doing it for less than 2 years over the guy who has coached at the highest level, and just coached a Heisman winner and Tom Brady.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52388 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:33 pm to
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and just coached a Heisman winner and Tom Brady.

Loeffler also coached Tom Brady. Maybe we should get him if B.O.B doesn’t work out.

As for BOB at the highest level, he had his star receiver bolt from Houston because he was a dickhead to him.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

You're pretty dumb, and so is the kid, if he chooses the coach that's been doing it for less than 2 years over the guy who has coached at the highest level, and just coached a Heisman winner and Tom Brady.

I never said who I’d pick in that situation. Why? Because who cares? Auburn’s coach isn’t coming to recruit me.

The only relevant thing is if we hired Bill O’Brien who could he convince to play for Auburn? If we hired Deion, who’s he getting? And the cold hard fact is Deion will have more success in that area.

So you or me thinking it’s a stupid decision to commit to play for Deion is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 5:40 pm
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