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re: Buccees Mascot Coaching Edition (Former Jet Tracking)
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:28 pm to TTsTowel
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:28 pm to TTsTowel
Didn’t hire bad but if I read many posters here over the last 5-7 years correctly, we didn’t hire great either.
If we have all the resources of our big rivals then we should be able to hire a decade plus coach where we compete for league championships and NC’s more often than not. A string of 10 plus win seasons.
Or are we expecting too much and we are just a top 15-18 school that can have a special season every 5-7 years. Hell, many are just hoping for a win against Uga.
Why can’t we find that historical hire? That is a serious question because I don’t know?
If we have all the resources of our big rivals then we should be able to hire a decade plus coach where we compete for league championships and NC’s more often than not. A string of 10 plus win seasons.
Or are we expecting too much and we are just a top 15-18 school that can have a special season every 5-7 years. Hell, many are just hoping for a win against Uga.
Why can’t we find that historical hire? That is a serious question because I don’t know?
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:30 pm to TTsTowel
If Luke Fickell is a legitimate candidate I’m all for it. It would be like Urban going to UF from Utah (minus recruiting murderers)
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:31 pm to TTsTowel
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Well, I doubt that, LCT.
That's fair.
I just have never turned to Hokason as an arbiter of accurate Auburn news for a reason.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:37 pm to kung fu kenny
I’m nearly certain Fickell would tell us no.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:43 pm to auburnnyc94
quote:Unfortunately, a lot of really good coaches will too. We have a massive problem with national perception. We are breathing the rarified air that TN was. With other big schools having vacancies, the really good coaches would have to have a deal that couldn't say no to. Is our BOT prepared to do that? Especially after the Malzahn extension and the imminent firing of Harsin.
I’m nearly certain Fickell would tell us no.
Posted on 10/11/22 at 11:08 pm to auburnnyc94
I hope we him say no, then. Don’t just assume
Posted on 10/11/22 at 11:26 pm to greygoose
Y’all really are a bunch of two faced talk out of your mouth fools.
This is the conversation on here…
I wanna win championships and compete for championships and so forth.
But we aren’t good enough we can’t hire good coaches. Our admin is shite. Our booster and PTB are shite.
We are surrounded by other good programs.
No good coach would want to come here blah blah blah.
End of the conversation.
My take good god folks. Grow up. Act like men. We are a top 15 team currently and have been recently. We have played for 2 national championships in the past 12 years. We have competed for 3 conference championships and won 2. Get the frick out of here with the woah is me bullshite. Every coach has won, played for, or had an undefeated season or championship since Dye came. That’s 50 plus years of success. Yes we’ve had some losing seasons but so has everyone else.
The hole dug by the coaching change and then Harsin era will be a tough one to come out of. It will take 2-3 years depending on how well we work the portal to get up to an Auburn standard. I have no doubts the next hire will be a better coach then what we have.
But this 15-20 years of darkness bullshite is old. The money is pouring in from fans to support NIL even with the shite product just wait until we are 10-2. So please for all that is good stop the we are gonna be 6-6 the next 15 years shite. That’s why we are dumping this farce of a staff as soon as possible.
Ok continue on with the my preferred coach is better then your preferred coach arguing.
This is the conversation on here…
I wanna win championships and compete for championships and so forth.
But we aren’t good enough we can’t hire good coaches. Our admin is shite. Our booster and PTB are shite.
We are surrounded by other good programs.
No good coach would want to come here blah blah blah.
End of the conversation.
My take good god folks. Grow up. Act like men. We are a top 15 team currently and have been recently. We have played for 2 national championships in the past 12 years. We have competed for 3 conference championships and won 2. Get the frick out of here with the woah is me bullshite. Every coach has won, played for, or had an undefeated season or championship since Dye came. That’s 50 plus years of success. Yes we’ve had some losing seasons but so has everyone else.
The hole dug by the coaching change and then Harsin era will be a tough one to come out of. It will take 2-3 years depending on how well we work the portal to get up to an Auburn standard. I have no doubts the next hire will be a better coach then what we have.
But this 15-20 years of darkness bullshite is old. The money is pouring in from fans to support NIL even with the shite product just wait until we are 10-2. So please for all that is good stop the we are gonna be 6-6 the next 15 years shite. That’s why we are dumping this farce of a staff as soon as possible.
Ok continue on with the my preferred coach is better then your preferred coach arguing.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 12:00 am to greygoose
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Unfortunately, a lot of really good coaches will too
Eh. I find this hard to believe.
We have a history of paying a lot of coaches a lot of money to not coach here anymore.
And literally every coach since Bowden has gotten another high profile job since they left here.
If your starting salary is more than Harsin's (currently around $5.5 mil), and your buyout is solid, I think most coaches would be willing to come here.
No matter what, they're leaving with a fricking bag and a half.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 12:18 am to Lee County Tiger
That will be the key right? How much money are we willing to pay to reach new levels? If we are ready to pay more up front then we can get a coach to turn us around with our NIL rolling in the right direction. A HC that is adept at playing in the portal.
I really don’t think anything is in the works for a new HC outside of some initial feelers possibly. I think the focus is on the AD. We hit that mark right then bring out the money for the new HC. The next 3 months will be interesting to say the least.
I really don’t think anything is in the works for a new HC outside of some initial feelers possibly. I think the focus is on the AD. We hit that mark right then bring out the money for the new HC. The next 3 months will be interesting to say the least.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 12:50 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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That will be the key right? How much money are we willing to pay to reach new levels? If we are ready to pay more up front then we can get a coach to turn us around with our NIL rolling in the right direction. A HC that is adept at playing in the portal.
The new TV deal kicks in on July 1st. That deal will give every SEC school roughly $54 million (before OU and Texas join). We can essentially throw around a metric shite-ton of money to a coach if we want. If we don't want to pay up for someone, I think that's the biggest story coming out of this upcoming search.
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I really don’t think anything is in the works for a new HC outside of some initial feelers possibly. I think the focus is on the AD. We hit that mark right then bring out the money for the new HC. The next 3 months will be interesting to say the least.
I 110% agree with this. Nothing matters at all Re:Harsin until a new AD is hired.
And I don't think a new AD is hired until Harsin is fired at this rate.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 5:55 am to Lee County Tiger
Our players will not be doing interviews this week.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 5:58 am to jangalang
Where did you pick up on this interesting piece of info Jang?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 6:11 am to jangalang
Have any of the other open jobs hired their coach yet? Remember the original timeline
Open Date - fire Hars
Two weeks later - hire the AD Hartwell
Two Days after IB or Championship games: hire new coach. (See Nebraska, GT, Etc)
Remember when we win on Saturday, the timeline shifts.
Open Date - fire Hars
Two weeks later - hire the AD Hartwell
Two Days after IB or Championship games: hire new coach. (See Nebraska, GT, Etc)
Remember when we win on Saturday, the timeline shifts.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:28 am to allin2010
Why don't we spend more upfront, for example $10 million it would take to lure Lane away, in hopes of avoiding a huge buyout later? Not saying Lane @ $10 million is the answer, just an example
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:30 am to allin2010
I don't know that beating Ole Miss, which is a long shot, would buy him time? Recruiting wouldn't be fixed, and the Penn State and UGA score would still be what they were
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:31 am to Poker Dough
because future money is cheaper than present money
but i do think you may be onto something. eat the cost now because it's worth it.
but i do think you may be onto something. eat the cost now because it's worth it.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 7:35 am to kung fu kenny
Obviously no guarantee it works out for whoever it is. But I'd rather take a chance on Lane at $10 million versus a change on Grimes at $5.5 million.
After all the bullshite of Gus' last couple of years, and the Harsin abortion the PTB need to make a hire that creates some excitement
After all the bullshite of Gus' last couple of years, and the Harsin abortion the PTB need to make a hire that creates some excitement
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 7:49 am
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:57 am to Lee County Tiger
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Eh. I find this hard to believe.
We have a history of paying a lot of coaches a lot of money to not coach here anymore.
And literally every coach since Bowden has gotten another high profile job since they left here.
If your starting salary is more than Harsin's (currently around $5.5 mil), and your buyout is solid, I think most coaches would be willing to come here.
No matter what, they're leaving with a fricking bag and a half.
Do you think Brian Harsin was anywhere near the top of the "get" list during our last coach search?
High profile jobs? Your definition and mine aren't exactly the same. Bowden went to D-2, UNA. Tubs went to Texas Tech. Chizik was/is a coordinator. Malzahn is at UCF.
Someone like Kiffin, making just north of $7 million/year would have to be offered a very considerable raise to take a job where expectations are much higher, than his current job. Now throw in the fact that not only are our expectations higher, our two rivals play for the national championship almost every year. All I'm saying is, if you are very good, well respected coach, you have options. Money will be there from several places. If you are an up and comer, waiting for your shot at the big leagues, Auburn, historically, has been the place that goes that route.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 9:11 am to greygoose
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Do you think Brian Harsin was anywhere near the top of the "get" list during our last coach search?
Harsin makes roughly $5m a year. Billy Napier, another name mentioned for the Auburn job back in 2020, is making $7.1m at Florida. We already know what Jimbo, Nick, and Kirby are making.
Looking at those facts, I think it's slightly clearer that we got what we paid for, which was middling SEC results, and I have no idea how much of that is due to the fact that we were paying Gus a ton to not coach.
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High profile jobs? Your definition and mine aren't exactly the same. Bowden went to D-2, UNA. Tubs went to Texas Tech. Chizik was/is a coordinator. Malzahn is at UCF.
Bowden went to UNA, then Akron and is currently at ULM, both of which are FBS Head Coaching jobs. Tubs went to Texas Tech, a P5 gig, and then left out a bathroom window at a restaurant to go to Cincy, considered to be the best of the G5 jobs. Granted, he shite the bed there.
Chizik became UNC's DC, then did TV for a couple years, and is now back at UNC. While not "high-profile" per-say, a P5 DC gig is not exactly a bad job.
Gus could've done nothing, but instead took the UCF job, which is one of the top G5 schools in the country, and next year will be a P5 school as well.
It's not like the days where you saw Doug Barfield becoming a high school coach, or Pat Dye retiring to lose his pants in Lake Martin.
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Someone like Kiffin, making just north of $7 million/year would have to be offered a very considerable raise to take a job where expectations are much higher, than his current job. Now throw in the fact that not only are our expectations higher, our two rivals play for the national championship almost every year. All I'm saying is, if you are very good, well respected coach, you have options. Money will be there from several places. If you are an up and comer, waiting for your shot at the big leagues, Auburn, historically, has been the place that goes that route.
If last year proved nothing else besides this, it's that if you're willing to pay, you can get a "top flight" coach to jump ship, i.e. Riley, Mario, and Kelly.
But if you're not willing to spend money, you're going to be up shite creek.
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