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re: Break down of Jackson State staff

Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:56 pm to
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then got shellacked against South Carolina State.
Kirby is a shite coach bc he got shellacked in that one game that one time. Why do fans lie to themselves and use one loss as a reason to say see, he is a terrible coach while ignoring all of the other reasons why he is good.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:00 pm to
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I don't think the Jimbo example means what you think it does. He beat AUBURN in a national title game. Give me more proven HC candidates than that. Jimbo shows there's no sure thing when hiring head coaches.
Yeah, but there are those here that have you believe Deion is just because he can talk a good game and that nothing else matters when choosing who to hire next. Experience means nothing as long as you act like a celebrity.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17665 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:28 pm to
Prime is on his way to an undefeated season in his second year. That is hard to do in any league. I can throw tons of names out of coaches that had experience (hell Harsin had a good track record) and sucked arse when they got a big job.

A lot of you spew crap about Prime that just doesn’t hold water. Always the comments about how he talks loud and talks a good game.

I think there’s much more to the dislike of Prime amongst many here.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:26 pm to
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I can throw tons of names out of coaches that had experience (hell Harsin had a good track record) and sucked arse when they got a big job.
You just prove my point. You can't claim take Prime because he has a good record and then turn around and say records other places don't matter because they can still suck when they get here. Harsin had way more experience than Sanders and at a big program with P5 mixed in and still failed. Sanders has zero big program experience and not playing the best coaches there are.

The only arguments people have for Prime is that he can recruit and that he has a good record where he is. Where he is is a step above a prep school and against teams that suck. These are the teams ULM and Liberty beatdowm. He has no idea what it's like to be on a staff of a big program and suddenly people want to make him the future of the program because this. It's a bigger gamble than a coordinator from a small school.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 2:30 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:38 pm to
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He has no idea what it's like to be on a staff of a big program and suddenly people want to make him the future of the program because this.


That means something when you are talking about a coach coming up that has never been in the spotlight or dealt with pressure. Prime is on another level in the spotlight and not only will it not get to him, he relishes it.
Posted by GruntAu
Member since Jul 2017
753 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:10 pm to
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Jimbo is living proof that just recruiting at a high level doesn't always translate to winning in the SEC


Would you take Auburn’s roster and a coach to be named later or A&M’s roster with Jimbo as coach? It’s a fair question..
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9761 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:12 pm to
Hard pass on anything Jimbo and his $86 million buyout
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:29 pm to
I haven’t seen anything at all to convince me Hugh Freeze can win big especially without a distinct competitive advantage from cheating
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:31 pm to
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Would you take Auburn’s roster and a coach to be named later or A&M’s roster with Jimbo as coach? It’s a fair question..
Who would take Jimbo? I'll take a proven coach. Not one that won because a top QB. The same reason no one wants Chizik after his NC. That still doesn't prove Prime would win anything at a big school. I wouldn't have took Jimbo after he sucked without Winston.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:41 pm to
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I haven’t seen anything at all to convince me Hugh Freeze can win big especially without a distinct competitive advantage from cheating
He's competing with teams that have him way outmatched at liberty like Wake Forrest and even beat BYU worse than anyone including Oregon and Arkansas. That's coaching. He even blew out the team the Goat coach Deion barely beat last week by 31 points.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 3:44 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:44 pm to
Not impressed
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:48 pm to
So is Willie Fritz in your top 3? Fickell?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17665 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 4:13 pm to
Bottom line, there’s really only four coaches out there that are championship proven (left off O but I like that crazy SOB):

1. Urban. No one likes him though.
2. Saban. Ain’t happening
3. Kirby. Ain’t happening
4. Dabo
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3414 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:15 pm to
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That's coaching.

Ok so negative recruit your top coach and negative recruit Prime. That way we will see how you would negative those guys.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:24 pm to
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I haven’t seen anything at all to convince me Hugh Freeze can win big especially without a distinct competitive advantage from cheating


you mean having equal talent to the teams he plays against? yeah, cheating.

Some of you just dont accept reality and put your blinders on bc you dont like the guy. I equate it to Reps that voted for Biden. I hate the other guy no matter how good he really is
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9961 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:41 pm to
Um, what?
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17665 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:57 pm to
Prime recruiting players and staff to Auburn

Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
14174 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:25 pm to
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Prime recruiting players and staff to Auburn
Now if you only had a single shred of evidence what he was like coaching at a P5 school you might have a case. Until then you just want us to invest 5 years into a recruiter as a HC.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33357 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:19 pm to
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Until then you just want us to invest 5 years into a recruiter as a HC.


At this level, it's more about the Jimmy and Joe's than the X's and O's
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7777 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 10:26 pm to
I can’t wait to see how Liberty fares @ Arkansas Saturday
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