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re: Bo Nix running the read option

Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:50 am to
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:50 am to
Bo is the present and the future. Joey cannot make some of the throws that Bo makes. On Saturday, Bo threw two bad passes. Bo is faster. Joey has benefited from playing late in games already decided.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:58 am to
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Joey has benefited from playing late in games already decided.

I have no doubt in my mind that Joey would’ve broke the game open earlier than what Nix did and rushed for at least 200 yards if he started against Kent State.

Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:48 am to
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Joey cannot make some of the throws that Bo makes.


Which throw is that? The overthrows or the underthrows he's been making? Nix has been very underwhelming throwing the ball. I think we can quit making this argument until Nix shows otherwise.


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On Saturday, Bo threw two bad passes.


Every swing pass he threw was high. The WR just was able to snag it. Those cost yards.

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Bo is faster.


He sure didn't look faster on Saturday.

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Joey has benefited from playing late in games already decided.


Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:23 am to
jville and jangalang

Two fricktards that cant get over that Joey is not good enough to start on his own high school team and not good enough to start at Auburn. Oh he's big and can run. But Auburn is trying to be something better than Miss St
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:27 am to
There's a lot more people than me and jang that think Gatewood should start dipshit.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:31 am to
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Joey is not good enough to start on his own high school team and not good enough to start at Auburn

NoBoDY Be HaTiNg On JoEy!

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Oh he's big and can run. But Auburn is trying to be something better than Miss St

Which is ironically a team that can handle Malzahn thanks to his long laundry list of mistakes.

What kind of team are we trying to be right now? Out of 16 qualifying conference QB’s, Nix is 15th out of 16 in QBR. He may be the answer for the future but isn’t the answer now.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:36 am to
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Joey cannot make some of the throws that Bo makes.

I haven’t seen Gus ask Bo to make any extraordinary throws. We don’t have the aerial assault of LSU or Bama. We’re still a running team.

Gatewood has made the most out of every opportunity he’s been given, going back to the bowl game.

Maybe if they let Joey throw then we could see a clear cut leader at QB. But Nix is missing some big throws and is barely over 50% passing after 3 games.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:53 am to
Hope Joey transfers next year so we dont have to listen to the fools bitching about Nix
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:00 am to
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Hope Joey transfers next year so we dont have to listen to the fools bitching about Nix

Yep. That will fix ALL of our....Er...your problems.

Keep looking over your shoulders honey.

#TeamGatewood

We coming!!!
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:11 am
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6946 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:01 am to
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Yep. That will fix ALL of our....Er...your problems.

Keep looking over shoulders honey.

#TeamGatewood

We coming!!!
I'll keep looking towards the bench because thats where team gatewood resides
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:06 am to
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Maybe if they let Joey throw then we could see a clear cut leader at QB.


Counterfactuals are definitely a solid foundation for this argument. Do you honestly believe the coaching staff hasn't had a good sample of both of their respective abilities at this point?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:12 am to
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Do you honestly believe the coaching staff hasn't had a good sample of both of their respective abilities at this point?

You never heard of 4 game Gus?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:17 am to
I have - I just don't believe that Bo was chosen because Joey was never given opportunity to win the job. I, like you, also wish he was given more time in-game to show us what he can do. I also just happen to believe the coaches have a pretty good idea.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28898 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:17 am to
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Counterfactuals are definitely a solid foundation for this argument. Do you honestly believe the coaching staff hasn't had a good sample of both of their respective abilities at this point?


Gus has a history of being unsure during the first 3-4 games. The only passing sample we’ve seen from JG is the A-day game.

Nix ranks 6th in passing attempts in the SEC, but is 11th in passing yards.

This isn’t an argument against him, but some of y’all need to be a little more practical. It’s his job to lose.I’m not suggesting they bench Nix, we’re 3-0 under him. But we’re also last in the SEC in passing yards per game and Nix has left some points out there. We’ll see how it goes the next 3 weeks.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41104 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:26 am to
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Hope Joey transfers next year so we don't have to listen to the fools bitching about Nix


I'm almost to this point.


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Do you honestly believe the coaching staff hasn't had a good sample of both of their respective abilities at this point?


Again, none of the clowns on this board have EVER coached a college football game or made decisions regarding football player evaluations. EVER.

I understand that the backup QB is always the fan favorite, but typically that's reserved for cases where the starter is struggling. That's not the case here. Has Nix looked like a FR, absolutely. We knew that going in. I said it was going to be a long season with a FR at QB. With that said, the kid is undefeated. Not sure what else you want him to do? Win by more?

Say what you want about Gus, but he put Newton in at QB when all the world (including me) thought for sure that Neil Caudle was getting the starting job in 2010.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36458 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:38 am to
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understand that the backup QB is always the fan favorite, but typically that's reserved for cases where the starter is struggling. That's not the case here
WTF are you seeing if he’s not struggling. He’s basically bottom tier in all SEC statistics. He was completing less than 50% of his passes before the Kent State game. Nix isn’t even in the right offense. He’s probably got a better arm than Baker Mayfield and restricted to throwing extend handoff passes as the base offense.

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Has Nix looked like a FR, absolutely.

I’m sure Joey has too. Don’t forget he’s actually younger than Nix. Are we assuming that only Nix can get better out of the two?
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With that said, the kid is undefeated. Not sure what else you want him to do? Win by more?

Well yeah.
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Again, none of the clowns on this board have EVER coached a college football game or made decisions regarding football player evaluations. EVER.

What does this matter. People that are paid handsomely to do such things also do 4 QB rotations against Clemson, call the Whirlybird play, and cannot count to 4 when it comes to botching redshirts. Also, this is a message board called the Rant. Get your sunshine pumping out of your system now that we are still undefeated.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:50 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41104 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:14 am to
So, what empirical evidence do you offer to prove that Joey is better than Bo at QB? Please be specific.

Also, if we accept your contention that Joey is in fact the superior QB and that anyone can see it, then we will also need a detailed explanation as to why numerous coaches on our staff aren't playing the best QB. Again, please be specific.

For future reference, can you please list your experience with football in general but more specifically expertise in coaching football and player evaluations/operations. This will help the board going forward when engaging in conversation.


OK? Thanks!
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33333 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:22 am to
A month ago I said all this QB stuff was sad to see because people are treating this like politics with their parties/candidates — digging in no matter what is said or what happens.

I was told I was very wrong. Never underestimate the Aubie board
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:26 am to
Oh, yeah, it's tribalism in a slightly more mild form. We're almost in the territory of coming up with in-group/out-group names for each other. Probably already happened, actually.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:30 am to
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A month ago I said all this QB stuff was sad to see because people are treating this like politics with their parties/candidates — digging in no matter what is said or what happens.


Jones,

I'm the biggest Gatewood fan there is. But if Nix wasn't struggling so bad, even I wouldn't be calling for Joey to start. The fact is, he is struggling. The fact is, Joey has looked damn good each time he comes in. The fact is, Joey is the type of QB Malzahn wins big with. It has nothing to do with who favors who.
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