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re: Auburn seniors see changes in offense with Gus Malzahn in charge
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:56 pm to Skyler97
Posted on 12/27/18 at 4:56 pm to Skyler97
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If the O sucks we will know that it’s Gus.
So if it does well?
A - Gus is working off Chips design
B - Our bowl opponent just sucked
C - We just got lucky
D - The players took the game in their hands in spike of Gus's bad play calling
E - All the above
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:03 pm to LanierSpots
If it does well then great? The only thing that would show is that Gus wasted a whole season letting the offense suck. It would at least make me more optimistic for next year
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:10 pm to Skyler97
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The only thing that would show is that Gus wasted a whole season letting the offense suck
And there it is
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:31 pm to Skyler97
quote:I hate to bang a gong here, but I think it is pretty easy to predict when the O is going to suck with Gus. Look at the entirety of Gus' record at Auburn below.
If the O sucks we will know that it’s Gus.
2009 = 8-5
2010 = 14-0
2011 = 8-5
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2013 = 12-2 (Nic Marshall, year-1)
2014 = 8-5 (Nic Marshall, year-2)
2015 = 7-6
2016 = 8-5
2017 = 10-4 (Stidham year-1)
2018 = 7-5 (Stidham year -2)
When Gus does not have a great QB, we will go 8-5, on average. When Gus has a great QB, the team has the potential to be great, but that potential plummets to the 8-5 average in year 2 with that QB.
The stats couldn't be clearer. Gus breaks Quarterbacks. Moreover, he now has a body of work that shows he is not a great head coach nor a great offensive mind. Whenever we reach an inflection point where the pain of 8-5 seasons outweighs the pain of Gus' buyout, he should definitely go.
With the talent pool we have, a lot of coaches could get to 8-5 each year and see the same bump with a great QB. We aren't gaining anything by keeping him.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:44 pm to PrisonMike
Gus coaches scared and chokes when the pressure is on
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:47 pm to PrisonMike
Way to simplify things. Too bad you are wrong
2014 offense was one of our very best. Defense on the other had was one of our worst. Had nothing to do with QB play.. Dont let the fact cloud your judgement though
I dont know why some of you dont just put the barrel in your mouth and just pull the trigger. Some seriously miserable fricks that have no intention of being real. Just one big gangbang
2014 offense was one of our very best. Defense on the other had was one of our worst. Had nothing to do with QB play.. Dont let the fact cloud your judgement though
I dont know why some of you dont just put the barrel in your mouth and just pull the trigger. Some seriously miserable fricks that have no intention of being real. Just one big gangbang
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:51 pm to LanierSpots
Nah it’s just that to you Gus can do no wrong. When the offense is good the defense is bad and it’s the DCs fault. When the D is good and the O is bad it’s the OCs fault. If Gus calls a bad game you’ll blame the players.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:53 pm to PrisonMike
2014 was a horrible defense that ruined that year.
In fact Nick Marshall had a much better 2014 in stats across the board.
So much for your theory.
In fact Nick Marshall had a much better 2014 in stats across the board.
So much for your theory.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:03 pm to Skyler97
A lot of things wrong with Gus, but Lanier wasn't wrong about 2014. Especially in regards to QB play.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:07 pm to Skyler97
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Nah it’s just that to you Gus can do no wrong
Sure he has. He made a major mistake and total frick up by changing to the crappy style of offense that we have been running since 2015. And I have stated that a million times. It IS the main reason we are not consistent with him on offense. And I do not think it is something he will ever repair...
He is not capable of running a downfield passing game. He just cant. He can only be consistent with a run heavy offense with a QB that is a run threat. Without that, he is mediocre at best and always will be. The rest of all this is just smoke and mirrors. Doesnt matter if its Stidham, Malik Willis, Gatewood or the savior freshman whose daddy was a Auburn legend. If we dont have a running QB threat with Gus at the controls, it will not be consistent. At some point, you guys will understand that and know it is true
The rest of this is just something to argue about in between games and hanging yourselves.
Running QB = Success
Passing QB = inconsistent
Just because I do not sit around like a bleeding a-hole blaming every single thing on the head coach and crying that he should be fired over everything that happens doesnt mean I dont blame him for things. But if your not going to at least make a legitimate argument over things, just do like the others and act like a crying vagina. There are legitimate things that he has done that he is responsible for like any coach and yes, ultimately its all on him. But some of you just need to jump off the damn cliff and get it over with.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:09 pm to LanierSpots
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He made a major mistake and total frick up by changing to the crappy style of offense that we have been running since 2015.
Our offense is the same as it was in 2013, just minus the qb run and an awful OL instead of a good one.
If you won't belive me, just go watch the 2013 Iron Bowl and compare the offenses.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:11 pm to Skyler97
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If Gus calls a bad game you’ll blame the players.
I call it like it is unlike some of you. If the players fumble, drop numerous passes and throw absolutely idiotic interceptions, its their fault. Not the coaches
If the coach calls a shitty game, its on him.
The two things are different. Unlike some of you who blame the rain fall on the head coach that you are all so upset about getting a bucket load of cash. Like it affects anyone here. It doesnt. Its just a talking point to be miserable over. If the coach sucks, then he sucks making 1mil or 50 mil.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:12 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Our offense is the same as it was in 2013, just minus the qb run and an awful OL instead of a good one.
No it isn't and you know it. You are smarter than that. The main component that makes the 2013 offense work so good is not there.
yes the offensive line is bad but the biggest issue is the QB run threat
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:23 pm to LanierSpots
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No it isn't and you know it.
It's the same crap we've seen for 4 years now, just better executed. Run, run or screen pass, throw it deep works when you can run.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:12 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Leaning by rote is not a good quality for a coach at this level. The competition is too talented and the margin of error in the SEC is unforgiving for the never changing mind. He came in with something new and it worked; however the trick is not found resting on your past accomplishments.
And isn't this 'he has to have the right QB' just another way of saying he's signing those he shouldn't ever have?
I'm more interested in seeing if he's adapted to using what he's got in this bowl game than winning. We all know he's been more apt to go find a JUCo or grad transfer to make up for his bad choices; than change his precious methods to fit the personnel.
And isn't this 'he has to have the right QB' just another way of saying he's signing those he shouldn't ever have?
I'm more interested in seeing if he's adapted to using what he's got in this bowl game than winning. We all know he's been more apt to go find a JUCo or grad transfer to make up for his bad choices; than change his precious methods to fit the personnel.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:18 pm to LanierSpots
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If we dont have a running QB threat with Gus at the controls, it will not be consistent. At some point, you guys will understand that and know it is true
Uhm. We do understand this. That’s why most of us are curious why the frick he keeps recruiting guys like Sean white and jarret stidham. Just because Gus CAN be great it doesn’t mean he is. If he can only be successful with certain players, yet he doesn’t recruit those players, he isn’t a good coach.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:38 pm to LanierSpots
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yes the offensive line is bad but the biggest issue is the QB run threat
Agree. But Gus hates a running QB. He needs one but doesn’t want one. If that is because he wants to prove he can win without one or if it is because he is relinquishing too much control allowing the QB to decide or adlib or some combo, I do not know. Some say it was some gimmick trick play offense that has been figured out but the only thing people have figured out is that Gus’ has tendancies. Since he doesn’t routinely make adjustments mid game, 2nd half becomes easier to defend. Now a dynamic athlete who can bail out a bad play is harder to defend. Hence, why Gus must have a running QB.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 3:58 am to ShredSquatch
I only hope we are down by three with 2 minutes to go in the first half and sit on the ball like we left our sacks on the busses. Then, I will know Gus is ready for prime time.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:23 am to threedog79
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I only hope we are down by three with 2 minutes to go in the first half and sit on the ball like we left our sacks on the busses.
Hmm, that sounds familiar.
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