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re: AU BBall Thread : Trainwrecked at 18-14
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:30 pm to ChexMix
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:30 pm to ChexMix
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my argument is that Bruce is a good recruiter, but overrated as a coach
I don't think anyone would disagree with you on this very much, but no one was expecting the next Coach K.
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He does not teach defense, rebounding or discipline.
I think this could simply be narrowed down the discipline. Defense and rebounding are about effort and we haven't shown much.
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He doesnt press enough to force turnovers even when he is down double digits.
I agree with this some too, but more that when he gets a lead he completely changes his coaching style and appears to just be trying to hold on.
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but rarely do i see an attempt to trap, take away passing lanes and apply pressure sans the end of the game
Trapping is a lot trickier now. A smart player can draw a foul off a trap. When we pressed a lot we had an issue of getting beaten over the top of it which is a sign of either bad coaching or poor basketball IQ (or both).
In my opinion we have a bunch of guys who are offensive minded and don't take pride in playing good defense. Brown is the only one that shows any fire or intensity when guarding someone. Bruce either needs to be considerate of this during the recruiting process or figure out a way to instill some sense of pride in them.
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Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:31 pm to Smoke7024
quote:It all goes back to my argument that Bruce is not a good coach, just a good recruiter.
We're top 25 in opponent turnovers per game. Pressing isn't the problem. Guys are constantly out of position and get lost defensively. My biggest problem with Bruce this year is lack of adjustments when we see something we weren't expecting. He's made numerous comments about someone doing something they haven't seen all year. He needs to figure out how to not let that completely take us out of games.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:34 pm to AA7
quote:100 percent agree.
In my opinion we have a bunch of guys who are offensive minded and don't take pride in playing good defense.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:34 pm to ChexMix
You may be right. I'm going to let him get some established guys that aren't freshmen before I make up my mind on that though.
We have tanked a bit, but even with that, we have more wins than we've had since our NIT run with Lebo in 08-09 and that's with a roster full of young players.
I'm also going to disagree on the defense is all effort thing. Our guys are lost out there. It's not all effort. They don't know where they're supposed to be half the time. I think this stretch of bad games has mind fricked them a bit.
We have tanked a bit, but even with that, we have more wins than we've had since our NIT run with Lebo in 08-09 and that's with a roster full of young players.
I'm also going to disagree on the defense is all effort thing. Our guys are lost out there. It's not all effort. They don't know where they're supposed to be half the time. I think this stretch of bad games has mind fricked them a bit.
This post was edited on 2/18/17 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:43 pm to Smoke7024
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I'm also going to disagree on the defense is all effort thing
I probably shouldn't have implied that it was all effort. We just don't show much and even if they don't know what to do, if they are playing balls to the wall it will mask some of that. Our ineffectiveness is man defense screams effort to me.
Posted on 2/18/17 at 11:50 pm to AA7
I do think there are times when it has been an effort problem, like when we've given up big leads. Lately, I think it's in their head. You can look at their body language and tell they're thoroughly confused a lot of the time. Purifoy ran to the wrong side of the zone against UF and left a guy wide open for a three.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:41 am to GenesChin
The rule change may play into it but we don't have anyone that can keep the ball in front of them. Couple that with the fact that even 4s and 5s can handle the ball now like pgs the press is not effective like it was decades ago.
Bruce needs to change his ways or hire someone to help him like Gus did.
Bruce needs to change his ways or hire someone to help him like Gus did.
Posted on 2/19/17 at 3:40 pm to AUtigR24
When your team doesn't have the spark and cohesiveness to at least play defense, it's on the coach. I don't want to hear excuses anymore. They don't show effort. They started playing like a Bruce Pearl team at the end of that loss to UT. Why didn't Pearl use that as a stepping stone? That is how they have to play with him as their coach.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 1:09 pm to jsmoove
Pearl is a good coach, but any coach needs to have the right staff. This leads me to say that Chuck Person needs to be shown the door and BP needs to find a defensive assistant coach while not being biased to hiring an Aubyrn guy... Get whoever is best, don't worry about whether they went to Auburn or not. We've heard multiple times that Chuck is the primary defensive coach for the team. We score points... That has never been an issue, but the alarming dropoff in defensive play is inexcusable. Chuck doesn't know how to coach defense at the college level. Heck, did he even coach defense with the Lakers?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 1:10 pm to AUtigR24
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Bruce needs to change his ways or hire someone to help him like Gus did.
AKA, fire Chuck Person
Posted on 2/20/17 at 1:56 pm to AUNashville
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AKA, fire Chuck Person
Don't overreact. Chuck has held his own in terms of recruiting + has supposedly helped quite a few improve their shot. If he truly is defensive go to guy, he just needs new responsibilities. (More likely, that was Bruce hyping him up and he plays a key role but not "DCoordinator")
If we need to bring in someone else, there are quite a few positions on staff that are filled by less valuable people
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Chuck didn't have these defensive problems our first two years despite our huge talent issues. This seems a lot more like lack of motivation by players and not actual coaching
Even Tony Bennett at UVA or Frank Martin can't scheme for a defense who refuse to do their roles
That is on Bruce and coddling our "stars"
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:29 pm to GenesChin
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If we need to bring in someone else, there are quite a few positions on staff that are filled by less valuable people
If only we could get rid of the walking shitstain that is Steven Pearl.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:35 pm to AUNashville
Y'all are overreacting to the "defensive coordinator" thing. Chuck is too valuable to let go. He's been a good recruiter and shooting coach.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:37 pm to Smoke7024
Bruce is a marketer/promoter, this sounds way too much like Bruce inflating Chuck's role and it happened to backfire.
Pumping Chuck up as shooter extraordinaire, defensive mastermind and NBA figure would make him a big recruiting presence
Pumping Chuck up as shooter extraordinaire, defensive mastermind and NBA figure would make him a big recruiting presence
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:38 pm to GenesChin
I'd heard that Chuck really had little to do with defense at all. 
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:43 pm to Smoke7024
If we are not good enough to earn a second-rate postseason tournament spot, there is the possibility of the CBI
And Lord knows we cannot turn down the extra practice time that comes with it.
And Lord knows we cannot turn down the extra practice time that comes with it.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:59 pm to jangalang
Ewwww
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:01 pm to jsmoove
If you cannot find an eight willing to have sexk with you, sometimes it's best to push aside the pride and go after biggest broad in the bar and show her the best time she ever will experience in her life.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:03 pm to jangalang
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and show her the best time she ever will experience in her life
As long as she's never had anyone else AMIRITE?
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:08 pm to beatbammer
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As long as she's never had anyone else AMIRITE?
If motion in the ocean doesn't work, there is always roofies.
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