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re: 2023 Recruiting

Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:16 am to
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21197 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:16 am to
You haven’t heard me bitch about the kids we get I’m bitching about the kids we don’t get. Hope I cleared that up
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20830 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:21 am to
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This guy uses our recruiting thread as supporting evidence.


Because there’s links posted, dumbass. If you’re too lazy to go search, then quit asking.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:04 pm to
We missed guys last year. And have so far this year. I’m still kinda impressed at the staff’s backup plans. I’d love to have double the commits that we have but they haven’t sacrificed quality so far. Does look like some 3* OLs and a 3* QB are on the way. Which is fine, IMO

The thing holding us back in the rankings so far isn’t the lack of 4*’s. It’s the 3*’s
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 10:05 pm
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5467 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:16 pm to
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3* QB are on the way
Who are you talking about? The guy from Miami said he wasn't coming on a visit after all a couple of days ago.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:40 am to
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I remember going to Aday looking forward to seeing this new recruit Alan Evans. He didnt do much but this trouble maker out of McCalla did pretty well...his name escapes me.
There's a story that Randy Campbell and Pat Dye used to tell about Bo. They kept having exchange/fumble issues with Bo when he first got there until they figured out that he was getting to the handoff/mesh point so much faster than anybody else that it was throwing off the timing. They ended up moving both halfbacks a yard deeper in the formation to accommodate.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 7:49 am to
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The thing holding us back in the rankings so far isn’t the lack of 4*’s
If you look at it from just average player ranking on 247 we are in the 12-15 range. Not great but not a disaster. ON3 has us ranked higher so I would assume if you did the same analysis it would be slightly better. I haven't taken the time to figure out how the rankings actually work so its interesting that the number of recruits at this point would carry so much weight.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 3:30 pm to
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Who are you talking about? The guy from Miami said he wasn't coming on a visit after all a couple of days ago.


Not sure who, just assuming they’ll be a 3*. Same with the OL’s
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5467 posts
Posted on 8/28/22 at 5:09 pm to
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Not sure who, just assuming they’ll be a 3*. Same with the OL’s
Got it. Thought I might have missed a name that someone mentioned.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19099 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:34 am to
Keep in mind, as Jonesy so aptly pointed out, we will see quite a bit of flipping this cycle. Ask yourself, we have a kid who is a lifelong Auburn fan and suddenly commits to a school far away, do you honestly believe its because Harsin did not stay in contact, Harsin did not go to my practice, Harsin did not go to the golf tournament.......or, they were offered thousands of dollars in NIL???

What do you think an 18 year old kid is gonna say, Im a whore so Im taking money? And some on here take the bait. I also like the "Harsin does not like NIL", guess what sports fans, NO ONE, other than the players themselves likes NIL, including Saban (does that make him a bad recruiter).

My point is, some of these targets, would probably flip right back to us, if we want them and we pony up a few bucks. Particularly the ones in the mid to low 4 star range.

I also think you will see a lot of these players who committed early to "secure a spot" on a roster, will see themselves kicked to the curb when some of the big dogs walk at places like Ga and Alabama. Now that its become a business you are going to see far less tolerance to "honor" a commitment, knowing the kid would have bolted to another school in a heartbeat if the money was there.

The portal is going to become a very fertile recruiting ground as well. And we will have slots open.

We will do fine, just fine.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21197 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:35 am to
Why do we think there is going to be so many more flips this year as opposed to other years?

Some people if you add it up over the people that are possible flips adds up to 6-7 kids. I just don’t see it.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108392 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:37 am to
Legal money is involved now. Last minute deals swaying kids will allow for a higher rate of flips.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 8:38 am
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:39 am to
There’s a lot of kids committed early because they got a NIL deal they’re happy with. I think they’re flippable if we’re in position to beat it

Not all flips are created equal, either. Still, I’m not sure how many more than usual we’ll see.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 8:40 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
13596 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:09 am to
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Legal money is involved now. Last minute deals swaying kids will allow for a higher rate of flips.
So the HC's like an auctioneer?

Watch out for the fast talker and scratching your head.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17852 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:27 pm to
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And some on here take the bait.


I love it when we have fans who think that the excuses by fans and coaches that they got outbid on NIL is a real thing. Everyone of the big schools, including us, can pay these kids. This is just making excuses for the coaches being poor recruiters. Everyone can pay, so it still boils down to being a good recruiter.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:08 pm to
I agree. But Auburn’s NIL has been a mess maybe until recently and if offers are similar you’re correct - still need to be a good recruiter and your program has to instill confidence. There’s a reason why Nebraska can’t get whoever they want but schools like Miami and A&M are succeeding in the NIL era. Still gotta check all the boxes
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19099 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:01 pm to
It does seem like NIL is getting in order....and we are getting recruits. If the NIL is fixed then we can judge the coaches on recruiting prowess, but they were definitely at a disadvantage until recently, that is all Im saying.

And I do think the portal is going to be a significant part of recruiting in college football as we go forward, similar to free agency in the pros. I mentioned before the Rams won the superbowl with less than half of the team being drafted by them.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:04 pm to
Post-COVID this staff has received an uphill climb in recruiting in virtually all facets.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 7:51 pm to
Covid was a reasonable excuse last class. It’s a bit less valid this cycle, IMO. Most of this class (the top guys) were on campus last season for games. And more non top guys have been through two camps now.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
14115 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:27 pm to
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TheJones
Covid was a reasonable excuse last class


He saved Gus' last class without being able to have visits. His next class was torpedoed by boosters and GOBs. Did he do everything well? No, but It's hard to recruit when everyone is saying he's about to be fired. Our boosters and the regular fringe element of fans continue to say he's fired this year. These same people complain about current recruiting.

It's odd, even for Auburn.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34579 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:39 pm to
Not at all saying he’s recruiting without negativity. Just don’t think Covid has much to do with it anymore.

Negative narrative is part of the Auburn recruiting experience. Every coach battles it, IMO
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