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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by mckibaj
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:03 pm to
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The video 247 put up, all of Finley’s passes were high and the receivers had to stretch for them. But he did complete a few deep balls. Robby looked the best on the short/intermediate throws. Calzada was pretty bad


I just saw a video on Twitter of Robby and I’m not sure if any were completions with no defense out there.

ETA:

Robby

TJ

Calzada
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 12:18 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:08 pm to
One was completed in that video you posted and 2-3 were drops (one may be due to lack of touch) and the others were not thrown well.

Looks like Auburn passing game the last few years anyway.


I get the feeling Ashford is really pressing and thinking about every throw instead of just throwing, but I don't know him and it just may be his passing game period???
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:14 pm to
Look at you Rocky doing the Lord’s work.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:28 pm to
Rivals: Harsin looking for who will lead.

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AUBURN | The footwork, the fundamentals and all the little intricacies of playing quarterback — Bryan Harsin will leave that to Eric Kiesau, Auburn’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach.

As the head coach, Harsin is more of the big-picture guy and he knows exactly what he wants to see from his starting quarterback.

“I watch the whole thing,” said Harsin. “The sideline, all the field, how we operate in between plays, the sense of urgency, how fast we call the plays, how fast we get to the ball, how we check things, how we get our offense into the right situations, all of those things come into play

“It’s not just, ‘Hey, that guy throws the ball the best every time.’ You want that, but how’s he operating? What’s he doing? What’s he doing in the run game and can he help us with his feet? Can he do some things in the pass game? There are a lot more factors. And then you’re watching how accurate they are. You’re watching the decision-making process.”

Harsin can sum it up best with one word — leadership. That’s exactly what he told Auburn’s quarterbacks after Saturday night’s scrimmage.

“What I told those guys tonight is that I want to see them lead. That’s what I wanted to see,” he said. “From the sideline to on the field, that’s the No. 1 thing for me, and Coach Kiesau can figure out the rest.”

Which one of Auburn’s quarterbacks best fit Harsin’s checklist?

Judging by the scrimmage, junior T.J. Finley, the returning starter, has stepped up in some of those areas and is getting a lot of first-team reps. Robby Ashford, an Oregon transfer, and Zach Calzada, a Texas A&M transfer, have some catching up to do this week leading into Friday’s second major scrimmage of fall camp.

That second scrimmage could be the final chance to make a move before a decision on the starter is made. Harsin, a former quarterbacks coach himself, will be watching closely.

“Every guy, from when they enter the huddle to when that play is called to when we get to the field,” said Harsin, “how we take the field, are we looking at the things we need to look at like the play clock, are we moving guys around and getting them where they need to, are we making adjustments — he breaks the huddle and the tailback is on the wrong side and doesn't correct it. There's an example where that's not good. You leave the huddle and you come to the field and the tailback is on the wrong side, he should be on the other side and you don't correct it? That's an opportunity to lead. That's an opportunity for you as a quarterback to get things right.

“Those are things you want to see from your quarterback. They know what's going on. They know everybody's job. They know what everybody's doing. They know the alignment and the assignment of every single player around them. And you can tell that very quickly about a quarterback, because he's observing and he'll know right away that it's wrong. And you'll see them look right at them. And you'll know when a guy has no clue. They're lined up wrong, and they're just looking down and waiting for the snap, and everything's wrong. And that's the type of stuff you have to correct as a quarterback. You can't let that happen. You've got to know.”

Auburn will practice Wednesday afternoon and hold its second major scrimmage of fall camp Friday afternoon at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
Posted by jvilletiger25
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Was he hitting people in stride or were they often waiting a wee bit for the ball?


Which one? Finley and Robby had plenty of zip on the ball. Calzada didn’t, which is strange because I thought everyone said he had a really strong arm. I wonder if he took some off of his passes, trying to make sure he completed more balls. Finley definitely has the strongest arm, but seeing all of his passes go high kinda scares me. That’s perfect for a safety to grab a ball that sails off the receiver fingertips.

Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:40 pm to
Yea that's the drill that they had comments on yesterday I think. Basically the consensus was Ashford was putting way too much heat on the throws and not enough touch.

Finley had some better ones but similar issue with putting to much heat on it.

The drops though. Jesus. I'd have been laying into guys after those three drops in a row.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:46 pm to
That was Finley's issue last year throwing too hard, but that short clip I saw he showed a little better touch on some, but that was a no pressure drill.

I am guessing Calzada's surgery is playing a role in his development.

My feeling is that Calzada is not ready to start and don't know if he can get there anytime soon. Finley will end up starting because of time in the system, but hopefully Ashford gets some meaningful game time to see what happens.

Running QB's sometimes need to be able to run live to get into a passing rhythm. Is that the case for Robbie??? I would like to at least see in a game situation.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:48 pm to
Yep, Finley's miss will always be high. He doesn't understand touch throws and I don't think ever will, just who he is. Even on the swing passes they are just bullets.
Posted by bham_tiger
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:25 pm to
Haven’t seen it mentioned but sounds like Zykevious Walker is going to be out for a while.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:34 pm to
Wish I had never clicked on those links......
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:41 pm to
That reminds me of someone. Can't put my finger on it.
Posted by mckibaj
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Yea that's the drill that they had comments on yesterday I think.


Sounds like that’s all they did during the medias 20 minute viewing windows.

quote:

Justin Hokanson
@_JHokanson

I spent the entire 20 minutes of Auburn's media viewing window watching the Auburn QBs -- Finley went 19-20, Calzada went 16-19, Ashford went 13-22 (all against air) here's every route and throw they made during our limited time
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:58 pm to
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ounds like that’s all they did during the medias 20 minute viewing windows.

Which tain't happen'n today.

According to Hoke there's no observable practice this afternoon.

eta: consensus seems to be: They're installing the whirly-bird today.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:06 pm to
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That reminds me of someone. Can't put my finger on it.


What you did there, I see it
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Ashford went 13-22 (all against air


Oof
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

That reminds me of someone. Can't put my finger on it.

You also said Bo would be the 4th best QB on the roster this year. You’re just the village idiot.
Posted by auburn22
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:28 pm to
All teams have them
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:29 pm to
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Oof


Eh, Ashford had 3 drop just in the 15 second clip that hit guys right in the hands and weren't off target. Recievers (though looked a lot like bottom of depth chart/walkons at that point) looked really rough.

Posted by alpinetiger
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:34 pm to
Calzada looks like an NFL All-Pro in those clips against air. He might be a Heisman dark horse. 15-0.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:39 pm to
Cascade was the summer tiktok star for a reason.
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