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re: 2019 Football Recruiting Thread - Auburn Goes 4/7 & Land Brothers
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:09 am to TigerPaw1
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:09 am to TigerPaw1
Clemson is making another push for 3* TE Luke Deal. He took a visit there this week & is expected to return next week. KN says that last week all his other top schools has been told that Clemson was out of the running. Says lots of twists in this recruitment
Deal is my favorite TE target in this class so obviously we won't land him
Deal is my favorite TE target in this class so obviously we won't land him
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:10 am to TheSandman
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Did you watch A-Day?
No way Gatewood puts it all together in a year.
I watched Cam's A-Day performance also. If you went by that, Neil Caudle would have been the starter in 2010.Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:12 am to TigerPaw1
Finally, KN has article up on 5* C Clay Webb today. Webb says that first coach he ever talked too about recruiting was JB Grimes back when Webb was in 8th grade. Likes Grimes & says reminds him of some of his HS coaches. Webb is more concerned about relationships than on field performance this year. Says he's close with AU commit Bo Nix & former high school teammate KJ Britt. He's also very close with Bama commits Pierce Quick & Paul Tyson, he went on spring break with them. UGA is a threat in recruitment as well. Does not plan on committing in the near future. Says he's closer with Malzahn than with any other head coach recruiting him right now & mentions AU's home atmosphere as a major draw
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:14 am to TigerPaw1
I'm not going to get my hopes up, but it would be great to get Webb. 
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:15 am to jvilletiger25
Bruh I get what you’re saying, but I’m pretty sure you can throw everything about Cam out as statistically anomalous
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:16 am to WareagleKK
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You DO realize that teams have figured out the zone read, right? Like, it's literally dying in favor of the RPO based offenses.
Pruitt had Gus' offense figured out in 2013 in the NC game by the 2nd half and every defense in America followed suit.
No way in hell you believe that.
You mean he figured it out when we scored with a little over a min to go and had the game won. Or do you mean he figured it out in 2014 when we put up over 600 yards and 30 something points on the best defense in college football. If they knew how to stop it, seems they would have done so.
Look, any offense can be "figured out". But small adjustments can be made to overcome that. Its why we pay coaches so much money.
But dude, I am laughing my arse off at your statement. Teams had all year to
"figure it out" in 2013 and the only thing that stopped us from winning it all was a very shitty defense and a few bad breaks. It was nothing to do with the offense.
Same for 2014
Im not advocating a zone read only offense. I am just saying the running Qb in a Gus system is very difficult to stop. It also needs less moving parts (talent) and gives him less opportunities to go full tard.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:26 am to jvilletiger25
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I watched Cam's A-Day performance also. If you went by that, Neil Caudle would have been the starter in 2010.
Except they’re not even close to the same thing
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:37 am to LanierSpots
I think the problem moreso is that while the zone read was good at masking talent deficiencies and maximizing talent potential on the field (effectively turning an 11-man defense into a 10-man one), the way that defenses scheme against it now removes that advantage. It doesn’t mean that it won’t “work” — you can run just about anything you want to success if your Jimmys are better than their Joes — but it won’t have the same effect against the highly-talented defensive lines anymore when the Clemsons and Bamas of the world have 5* ends who can (and do) crash the exchange point, instead of waiting to see whose hands the ball winds up in as the zone-read was originally built for
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:37 am to ellitor
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offering...qb that was a high school safety from Florence.
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I don't remember this.
Kendrick Doss was his name. Great safety, meh qb.
I think his recruitment was a little before you joined the fun here
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:40 am to TheSandman
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I think the problem moreso is that while the zone read was good at masking talent deficiencies and maximizing talent potential on the field (effectively turning an 11-man defense into a 10-man one), the way that defenses scheme against it now removes that advantage. It doesn’t mean that it won’t “work” — you can run just about anything you want to success if your Jimmys are better than their Joes — but it won’t have the same effect against the highly-talented defensive lines anymore when the Clemsons and Bamas of the world have 5* ends who can (and do) crash the exchange point, instead of waiting to see whose hands the ball winds up in as the zone-read was originally built for
Yep. You have to have something else that helps keep the DE at bay. That zone read play where we'd have a WR come in motion and slip behind the DE into the flat worked pretty well at times at doing that. Adds a little more RPO to the zone read instead of just being an RPO.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:56 am to LanierSpots
quote:Also has to throw at at least a 60% completion clip to keep the D's honest. Otherwise the QB's running effectiveness is limited a good deal.
Im not advocating a zone read only offense. I am just saying the running Qb in a Gus system is very difficult to stop. It also needs less moving parts (talent) and gives him less opportunities to go full tard.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 8:59 am to ellitor
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Also has to throw at at least a 60% completion clip to keep the D's honest. Otherwise the QB's running effectiveness is limited a good deal.
Agreed. I couldn't stand when we'd bring Willis into the game late in the season last year. Everyone and their mother knew it was a zone read running play. Defenses just keyed on it and blew it up. First half of the season it was fine, but once we got to the tough games, he was just getting lit up. If you're going to do the zone read, that is fine, but you can't just bring a guy in as a package with no real threat of even calling a passing play.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:01 am to AUtigR24
quote:Never had a committable offer from AU & pretty sure the comtingent offer wasn't even at QB. Pretty sure it was as an athlete.
Kendrick Doss was his name. Great safety, meh qb.
quote:Nope. I was here.
I think his recruitment was a little before you joined the fun here
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:02 am to ellitor
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Also has to throw at at least a 60% completion clip to keep the D's honest
Or have an accurate deep ball.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:19 am to LanierSpots
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Pruitt had Gus' offense figured out in 2013 in the NC game by the 2nd half and every defense in America followed suit.
Poor playcalling is the only reason FSU didn't lose by 28...
Auburn averaged well over 30 ppg in 2013 & 2014. Look at Nick Marshall's stats in the 2 games vs Alabama. Auburn has not run the "true" read option offense since 2014...I'm sure it would still be effective.
Just like DC's make adjustments, Gus can make adjustments to counter those.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 9:55 am to thirdlawson
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Gus can make adjustments to counter those.
He never makes adjustments
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:03 am to HailToTheChiz
Hot take alert
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:15 am to rbWarEagle
Caldwell just posted an awesome Pappoe interview. Pappoe says that feels like weight off his shoulders now with commitment. Said told himself that if any other school could take his attention away from UGA then he knew that's place to be & AU did just that. More praise for T-WILL & his relationship. Says now focused fully on recruiting for AU. Says he, Nix & Pickens all have guys they are after. Pappoe is recruiting 5* CB Andrew Booth, 3* DE Colby Wooden, 4* RB Noah Cain & 4* DL Nathan Pickering. Also says trying to flip his close friend 4* LB Trezman Marshall from UGA. He's really excited about BCW & plans on bringing all his childhood friends, cousins, girlfriend & more family. Also confirms he's "all in" despite what other articles are saying about him not being solid (UGA writers)
Pappoe/Nix/Pickens is as good a trio AU has had committed this early. Excited to see if it translates to other big commitments
Pappoe/Nix/Pickens is as good a trio AU has had committed this early. Excited to see if it translates to other big commitments
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:17 am to LanierSpots
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No way in hell you believe that.
You mean he figured it out when we scored with a little over a min to go and had the game won. Or do you mean he figured it out in 2014 when we put up over 600 yards and 30 something points on the best defense in college football. If they knew how to stop it, seems they would have done so.
It's not a believe or not believe scenario. It's a fact.
We scored a boatload because Nick Marshall was as accurate as Tom Brady that day and was pinpointing throws all night.
If you can't see that the zone read is dying, you're naive or behind.....
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:19 am to thirdlawson
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Just like DC's make adjustments, Gus can make adjustments to counter those.
Gus?
The adjustment IS the implementation of the RPO to combat dropping the extra defender down into the box to stop the run.
We've also effectively nullified the need for a running QB with the short/quick passing game.
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