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re: 2018 Football Recruiting Thread -- Final OP Update Edition
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:44 pm to AUCE05
Posted on 10/30/17 at 9:44 pm to AUCE05
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I was just looking at the state of Florida recruits, and we basically have zero presence there. We used to pull some great talent out of the state.
Shouldn't be that surprising, only Kevin Steele has coached as a FL school (2003-2006) and none of our coaches are from FL
Last year for example, pretty sure every 4* that wasn't IMG (boarding school), was recruited by someone who coached at FL school or from FL
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:09 pm to AUCE05
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was just looking at the state of Florida recruits, and we basically have zero presence there. We used to pull some great talent out of the state.
Our recruiting base has been shrinking for the better part of a decade. We have abandoned the state of Mississippi. No longer recruit in tennessee. Amd our presents in florida is diappearing. I've been pointing this out for a while, but no one listens.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 10:16 pm to CaptainBrannigan
We used to have a pipeline to Olive Branch MS, Brentwood TN, and St Aquians. Those three are the ones I had in mind. And a few schools in Miami.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 11:30 pm to AUCE05
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We used to have a pipeline to Olive Branch MS, Brentwood TN, and St Aquians.
You have a weird definition of pipeline.
247 Recruits by School/City 2004-Present
Olive Branch,MS- 3 Players
2007 2* Chris Zinn, 2009 3* Darren Bates, 2010 4* Shon Coleman
Brentwood, TN 2 Players **Tubs had a big 03 class
2007 3* AJ Greene, 2006 3* Mike Berry
St Thomas Aquinas, Miami FL 3 Players
2007 3* Wes Byrum, 2008 3* Phillip Pierre-Louis, 2008 3* Christian Thompson,
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And a few schools in Miami.
We definitely re down since Tuberville, but it wasn't like we filled our classes from there. Most of the guys were 2* low 3* type guys too
Miami/Ft Lauderdale/WestPalm Recruits by year
2001- 0
2002- 2
2003- 2
2004- 3
2005- 3
2006- 2
2007- 3
2008- 3
2009- 0
2010- 1
2011- 2
2012- 3
2013- 1
2014- 1
2015- 3
2016- 0
2017- 1
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:07 am to CaptainBrannigan
Because you're wrong
Posted on 10/31/17 at 4:51 am to blzr
Well Richt is sure keeping his fair share at home this year.
The talent in south Florida is sick year in and out.
I loved one of the Dallas players talking when Johnson came there from Miami, one of them said "he treats us like we are some rah rah college team". Johnson said "I could bring my Miami team over here and kick your arse right now" and the Dallas player said "You know, he was right, they would kick our arse".
The talent in south Florida is sick year in and out.
I loved one of the Dallas players talking when Johnson came there from Miami, one of them said "he treats us like we are some rah rah college team". Johnson said "I could bring my Miami team over here and kick your arse right now" and the Dallas player said "You know, he was right, they would kick our arse".
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:31 am to AUCE05
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I was just looking at the state of Florida recruits, and we basically have zero presence there. We used to pull some great talent out of the state.
Not sure about that.... Under Malzahn FL has always been one of our 3 top states we pull talent out from
2013 (4) - 4* Tony Stevens, 3* Dominick Walker, 3* Mackenro Alexander, 3* Marcus Davis
2014 (2) - 4* Sean White, 3* Raashed Kennion
2015 (8) - 5* Byron Cowart, 4* Jeff Holland, 4* Ryan Davis, 4* Tim Irvin, 4* Javaris Davis, 4* Chandler Cox, 4* Carlton Davis, 3* Jeremiah Dinson
2016 (7) - 4* Nate Craig-Myers, 4* Eli Stove, 4* Woody Barrett, 3* Jayvaughn Myers, 3* Marquis McClain, 3* Tashawn Manning, 3* Daquan Newkirk
2017 (4) - 5* Calvin Ashley (originally from FL moved to DC senior year), 4* Nick Brahms, 4* Devan Barrett, 3* Traivon Leonard
2018 (3) - 4* Joey Gatewood, 3* Shaun Shivers, 3* Jamien Sherwood
FL is our #3 state really when it comes to recruiting which isn't that much of a change from AU's past. Obviously when we had Muschamp/T-Rob on staff we had better fortune down there because of their time at UF but AU still has a presence down there. Specifically in Jacksonville. AU could end up with five guys from FL if we get Schwartz & Oladele, throw in fact Newkirk is originally from FL & that's 6.
Our main recruiting issue is lack of big wins & questions marks around coaching staff
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:40 am to GenesChin
I can’t believe I made you look that up. What a homo.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 7:45 am to CaptainBrannigan
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Our recruiting base has been shrinking for the better part of a decade.
In some ways, yes I would agree. AU has really honed in on AL/GA/FL under Malzahn. However, those states produce plenty of talent that it isn't a bad strategy
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We have abandoned the state of Mississippi.
Some of that has been the poor talent coming out of there recently. We have gone after a few guys like CJ Avery, Cam Akers (never gave us time of day), D.D. Bowie, Javon Patterson
But I mean overall that state isn't putting out much. Here's how many 4/5* under Malzahn's watch they have produced
2018 - 4* (1)
2017 - 5* (1) 4* (6)
2016 - 5* (2) 4* (6)
2015 - 4* (7)
2014 - 4* (8)
2013 - 5* (2) 4* (3)
Now compare that to AL in same timeframe
2018 - 4* (10)
2017 - 5* (1) 4* (15)
2016 - 5* (2) 4* (6)
2015 - 5* (1) 4* (11)
2014 - 5* (4) 4* (7)
2013 - 5* (2) 4* (11)
As you can see AL consistently produces more talent & it's #3 of our top 3 states in talent. We have gone after the few MS guys worth anything but haven't been able to pull them out. The truth is MS really isn't worth too much effort. If there a guy you like go after them but overall not really a state that is pumping out a ton of talent
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No longer recruit in tennessee
Tennessee has never been a huge hotbed for AU recruiting but I will agree that it doesn't seem like we have much of a presence there anymore. This cycle we have gone after a few guys like Master Teague & Brendon Harris that we just didn't get.
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Amd our presents in florida is diappearing
That's just wrong like I posted above. We still very much have a presence in Florida
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I've been pointing this out for a while, but no one listens.
You say a lot of things, a lot of them are not worth listening too...
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:17 am to TigerPaw1
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The truth is MS really isn't worth too much effort.
Combine that with MS schools being on a surprising relevant streak lately,
Is it a surprise that during the best 4-5 year stretch by both MsSt and Ole Miss that Auburn recruiting I'm MS has regressed?
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Tennessee has never been a huge hotbed for AU recruiting but I will agree that it doesn't seem like we have much of a presence there anymore.
A key argument for why UTk will never be elite again is their lack of natural recruiting grounds
Not sure why we should be all that worried about TN recruiting for AU
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:32 am to GenesChin
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Not sure why we should be all that worried about TN recruiting for AU
Agreed. Would much rather see us try & gain some traction in Louisiana. I don't ever expect us to pull tons of guys from there but would be nice if we could snag 1-2 top 10 players from that state every other year
At end of day AU will get most of their talent in AL, GA & FL which provides plenty for AU to be successful. Recruiting ground is not AU's problem. It's the results on the field. Beat some real teams and more top prospects will take notice
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:34 am to TigerPaw1
KN has two notes on AU targets
- 4* Richard Jibunor told KN plans on having a decision sometime in November. KN continues to think AU is in a good spot. With the coaching turnover at UF & the expected turnover at TEN, looks like AU in driver's seat. Jibunor won't be an EE but plans to sign early in December
- 3* DE Andres Fox plans to be at AU/UGA game
- 4* Richard Jibunor told KN plans on having a decision sometime in November. KN continues to think AU is in a good spot. With the coaching turnover at UF & the expected turnover at TEN, looks like AU in driver's seat. Jibunor won't be an EE but plans to sign early in December
- 3* DE Andres Fox plans to be at AU/UGA game
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:44 am to TigerPaw1
On queue, Gus said in his presser today they focus in AL, GA, and FL for recruiting
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:48 am to AUCE05
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On queue, Gus said in his presser today they focus in AL, GA, and FL for recruiting
As we should.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:51 am to GenesChin
Home state and 2 of the the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country, at least we are using common sense there 
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:57 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Home state and 2 of the the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country, at least we are using common sense there
Ya there's plenty to knock Gus for but I am baffled by the recruiting grounds argument some appear to be making. Obviously you would love to recruit who you want from wherever you want but that's often not the case. AL/GA/FL produce a ridiculous amount of talent every season & if AU can get the guys they want from there we will be fine
If ppl wanna say we aren't getting enough of the guys we want from those 3 states then I think that's a very valid criticism. But WHERE we are getting guys seems like a weird complaint
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:42 pm to TigerPaw1
Just to be clear, I am not knocking him. I just made the observation that we aren’t pulling guys from areas we typically do. No implying that is good or bad.
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And AU reporters must troll our board because they basically asked the question this morning.
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And AU reporters must troll our board because they basically asked the question this morning.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:50 pm to AUCE05
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Just to be clear, I am not knocking him. I just made the observation that we aren’t pulling guys from areas we typically do. No implying that is good or bad.
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And AU reporters must troll our board because they basically asked the question this morning.
Thought same thing
247 board is on fire right now because that Niziolek dude wrote an article where he interviewed Kam Martin's dad who, shockingly, wants Kam to play more. It's amazing how bad AU beat is
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:24 pm to TigerPaw1
I'd have liked to see Kam playing more too.
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:43 pm to RandySavage
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I'd have liked to see Kam playing more too.
Don't disagree but seems kinda dumb for AU beat writer to ask father of a player if he thinks his son should be playing more. Pretty obvious the response you are going to get
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