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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:51 am to AUtigR24
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:51 am to AUtigR24
quote:1. Different positions and 2. Has Jaunty even played this year?
#1 player in the country sitting on the bench while unranked Juco Swain and 2* Johnson stand straight up and push sleds. Doesn't make since.
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Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:54 am to ellitor
Cowart played a good bit against arky. He didn't do much though.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:58 am to AuburnCPA
quote:Doesn't look like it. He says UF stands out right now and not sure Bama will even get an OV. He's finalizing an OV date for AU FWIW.
u mean Bama's top Jack target
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/28/15 at 10:58 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Cowart played a good bit against arky. He didn't do much though.
Our line is pretty bad though. He's not getting much help. Muschamp or someone else said his value hasn't shown on the stat sheet just yet.
The amazing part honestly is how much he's been playing as a true freshman. He's not an EE so he's truly learning on the fly
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:04 am to TheJones
I wish we could get an update on how Prince Tega is developing.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:06 am to AUtigR24
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#1 player in the country sitting on the bench while unranked Juco Swain and 2* Johnson stand straight up and push sleds. Doesn't make since.
Through the first 6 games, Johnson had no snaps according to Das Boonker poster Pokeberry who tracks that every week.
Johnson is athletic for his size and body composition. Just have to remember that on top of being inside a year from ACL surgery, it was known that Johnson would have to hit S&C hard. By the time he is a RS JR, he will give us quality snaps as a 2gap DT (eats up space/stonewalls run meh in pass rush)
ETA** - What Johnson will likely become in 2-3 years is exactly what we are missing in our interior DL. Montravius Adams is playing that role right now out of necessity and limits his effectiveness
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:07 am to TTsTowel
He's definitely maybe progressing and he's working really hard we definitely hope he continues to progress and if he does continue to progress then he definitely can possibly get in the rotation next year or the year after next year.
-Future Gus press conference
-Future Gus press conference
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:13 am to TheJones
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he amazing part honestly is how much he's been playing as a true freshman. He's not an EE so he's truly learning on the fly
Yep. I think he has been doing fine. We are asking him to do a lot when he is in. Arden Key has been more of a 3rd down pass rusher (though he does play other time and still does well). We are asking Cowart to play everything when in.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:46 am to AUtigR24
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Cowart isn't being used enough. That's a fact
I'm not expert but from what I can see Cowart is struggling with his eyes. There were multiple times against Arkansas he had no idea where ball was & ran way out of the play. Hoping that improves & he finishes year strong like Lawson did in 2013
My real question is why no more Holland? I no he got some PT late in Arkansas & got beat on TD pass in OT but guy seems to be best pass rushing option we have right now unless I am missing something (which is more than likely the case)
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 11:50 am
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:46 am to TheJones
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Our line is pretty bad though. He's not getting much help
All the players that are decent are playing in the wrong place due to lack of competent personnel. Muschamp runs a combo 1gap/2gap system along the front and we just don't have the DL to do it.
Monty Adams is playing a 2gap DT/NT role. Success in that role is commanding double teams and forcing RB to cut back or bounce outside. Adams ideally should play 3tech DT, which is what Fairley played in 2010.
Dontavius Russell's future probably is a 2gap DT but right now at 295 and a RS FR, he isn't big enough nor skilled enough to compensate to play that role
Davonte Lambert - He is in the right position as 2gap DE, he just wants to be a 1gap like a moron.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 11:47 am
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:48 am to GenesChin
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Dontavius Russell'
With as many negatives on defense as their has been this guy to me is a huge bright spot moving forward. He has been banged up & having to play everywhere but still holding his own. I think he has a chance to pair up with Johnson to give us that big inside that we have been lacking for awhile
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:50 am to TigerPaw1
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Cowart isn't being used enough. That's a fact
It is actually the opposite.
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I'm not expert from what I can see Cowart is struggling with his eyes
We are asking of Cowart to play both run and pass downs. It clearly is confusing him and that makes him slow and out of position.
Look at all the good FR DE recently, Lawson, Clowney, Garrett, Barnett etc. All of them started as pass rush specialists to start the year. Once they built on it and slowly were exposed to being every down players until they staretd at the end of the year.
Looks like we are trying to teach Cowart everything at once instead of starting small and growing
Posted on 10/28/15 at 11:55 am to TigerPaw1
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I think he has a chance to pair up with Johnson to give us that big inside that we have been lacking for awhile
You're right, he is banged up but looks promising. The issue is where is he going to end up? I've always felt his best position is that 2gap DT/NT type player but he will need to be 310+ to do that. 15+ pounds is a ton of weight to put on when you already are that big
As far as Johnson, his role will not be reflected in the stat sheet. He will go unnoticed but that role he plays is extremely important
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:09 pm to GenesChin
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Looks like we are trying to teach Cowart everything at once instead of starting small and growing
There have been games this season, especially early, where he's barely played. We are over halfway through the season now. Those guys you listed were making big impacts for their team by this point.
There's no way to spin that Cowart has been disappointing thus far. Hopefully it starts to click for him and the sooner the better.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:28 pm to RandySavage
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There have been games this season, especially early, where he's barely played. We are over halfway through the season now. Those guys you listed were making big impacts for their team by this point.
There's no way to spin that Cowart has been disappointing thus far. Hopefully it starts to click for him and the sooner the better.
You are pretty much making his point for him. We may be asking Cowart to do too much right now, instead of just giving him a few things to do, and let him focus on dominating that area, then adding in a wrinkle.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:51 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Sorry he was the #1 player in the country and jacked coming out of highschool. He would be making plays anywhere else and probably a day 1 starter.
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:08 pm to RandySavage
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. We are over halfway through the season now. Those guys you listed were making big impacts for their team by this point. There's no way to spin that Cowart has been disappointing thus far
I think you missed my point. Think of trying to drink a gallon of milk as fast as you can.
The other DEs got to finish the milk jug in multiple passes, they could singularly focus on one aspect of their game and then slowly build on that skillset and focus on improving different parts as needed.
Byron Cowart was asked to chug the entire gallon and he threw up. Cowart is being asked to learn run & pass schemes and skills at the same time. He isn't able to fine tune anything and isn't in a position to succeed
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Hopefully it starts to click for him and the sooner the better.
My point is that he won't get better anytime soon. The otehr DEs finished their milk and by games 6-8, these DEs were done.
Cowart is licking his throw up off the floor right now since he chugged trying to finish it by game one
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:14 pm to AUtigR24
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Sorry he was the #1 player in the country and jacked coming out of highschool. He would be dominated anywhere else and probably a day 1 starter.
You are can't seriously believe that. Clowney started 1 game all year, Garrett started only 8/13 games, Barnett didn't start until game 4
They are the best freshmen DEs in the country coming through and set FR sack records and they weren't "Day 1 Starters"
This post was edited on 10/28/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:14 pm to TheJones
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Our line is pretty bad though. He's not getting much help. Muschamp or someone else said his value hasn't shown on the stat sheet just yet.
1000% agree. If you go watch the plays where Cowart is asked to set the edge to funnel plays back inside the tackles, there isn't 1 player on our entire roster that does it as well as Cowart. He's been excellent doing that. He also just hasn't been put in many sic'em situations to get a bunch of sacks.
IMHO, Cowart never should've gained those 20-30 pounds this preseason. We needed him around maybe 260, but with the same quickness as 250. He isn't an interior DL, he's an edge guy.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:16 pm to WareagleKK
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IMHO, Cowart never should've gained those 20-30 pounds this preseason. We needed him around maybe 260, but with the same quickness as 250. He isn't an interior DL, he's an edge guy.
If he had a ton of experience and refinement at DE and he was this big, the weight gain wouldn't have been as big a deal. When you combine that small hesitation from lack of experience making reads with the lost step it kills him
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