re: 2015 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread

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They haven't developed one yet. It more or less remains to be seen what they can actually do with a quarterback over some time. Nick is the new project. They have failed (or not had enough time) up to this point.

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Please tell me you're joking. There is no way you can be remotely serious with that post.

Malzahn specifically
-Lead freshman Mustain to effectively manage the Arky O while going unbeaten in SEC play
-2 amazing years for Johnson and Smith. The QBs at Tulsa in 2007 and 2008.
-Look at difference in Chris Todd from 2008 under old staff to 2009. Gus cut his INTs in half, raised his pass attempts to int ration from 26:1 to 52:1, and at the time led CT to the season record for TD passes.
-Led Cam Newton to the single greatest 1 season in AU QB history in which Cam improved through out most of the year.
-While Ryan Aplin was good under Freeze, Gus made him much more eficient by greatly dropping his INTs and helping his pass attempt to INT ratio go from 28:1 to 103:1
-Nick Marshall leads AU to the SEC title and playing for the natty with only 5 weeks to practice before the season started. While Nick did not have a high completion % he was one of the most efficient QBs in the nation.

You don't need to look at multiple seasons with one guy to see if Gus can develop QBs. Seeing the changes he made in the QBs from previous staffs is enough proof to know he develops QBs.

Pretty sure they decided on OHS, at least that is what i thought I remember, maybe not. I bet you 1,000 pesos there hombre` he won't go to Auburn HS though.

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Pretty sure they decided on OHS, at least that is what i thought I remember, maybe not. I bet you 1,000 pesos there hombre` he won't go to Auburn HS though.

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Exactly

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They haven't developed one yet. It more or less remains to be seen what they can actually do with a quarterback over some time. Nick is the new project. They have failed (or not had enough time) up to this point.

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LOL what?

Fellas, fellas, fellas! Where's Kiehl at now? How'd his development go? What happened with Clint? With Barrett? Nick got better over the course of the season - because he's a great athlete. Cam, same thing.

All I'm saying is Gus hasn't yet - YET!!! <<<< important word there - recruited and developed a quarterback that has gone on to be something in college. Nick is a great test of his quarterback development abilities.

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Fellas, fellas, fellas! Where's Kiehl at now? How'd his development go?

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Considering Kiehl only had one fall under Malzahn before being destroyed by Loeffler, I don't think he counts. Additionally, wasn't going to beat NM out for QB this year regardless of how much he got coached up

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What happened with Clint? With Barrett?

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Considering our OL had a FR OC, AJ Greene, Chad Slade in his first year and John Sullen, Barrett about as good as you could expect. Trotter's only other BCS offer was Duke before they were good. Same goes for Moseley

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Nick got better over the course of the season - because he's a great athlete. Cam, same thing.

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Wasn't like Nick and Cam weren't good athletes at hte beginning of the season. Something had to give and I would bet it is how they got coached up through the season

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recruited and developed a quarterback that has gone on to be something in college.

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I can agree but your earlier arguments about Kiehl, Clint and Barrett are clearly flawed

Gus recruited Kiehl and Clint. Y'all can rationalize all you want about these qb failures, but the point remains: Gus had his way with these guys for a good amount of time and they all sucked. Gus's fault? Their fault? A combination? Whatever?

And another thing: Gus didn't realize what he actually had in Cam until Cam showed him. Y'all know this. Like I said, let's see what he does with Nick. It's a good test of his abilities.

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mockabee

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I agree with you. P

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Gus recruited Clint. Clint was recruited by Gus. It is what it is.

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He was recruited as a filler player. No different than J. Wallace. There isn't a single coach in the country who can magically grant SEC-level talent to a kid that doesn't possess it already. So what are you arguing, that he "failed" to coach up a player who wasn't talented enough in the first place?

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Kiehl's problem was mental, all of it. Gus could have helped him in a lot of ways Season 2011. He did not. Gus failed the kid, a kid he'd recruited since the 9th grade. Again, it is what it is.

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Mental problems are the most difficult to correct and the least coachable. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that it is almost entirely uncorrectable. Kiehl was a bust...big deal, it happens everywhere and it is inevitable. That is why ALL of these coaches try to sign a top quarterback every single year.

I'm not arguing anything, really. But the fact is, Clint was Gus's recruit. Y'all can say he was this or he was that, blah blah, yada yada, but he was Gus's boy. And he was a failure.

I don't know, and you don't know, if Kiehl was unfixable. (Other than he was pretty fricking broken, lol.) Point is, he wasn't fixed. Is it solely the kid's fault if he's a bust, and to the coach's credit if he's all-conference?

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mockbee, this should be all the evidence you need to realize your opinion is stupid.

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