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re: 2014 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread

Posted on 10/31/13 at 11:43 am to
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 11:43 am to
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Recruiting obviously isn't going as well as we'd like.
Yeah I agree. It's not so much ranking-wise for me; it's activity. I would have liked some more recruiting noise during the season. I'm hoping for a strong finish.
Posted by atlau
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 11:48 am to
It seems like the coaches are focused on winning on the field rather than on recruiting trail. Perhaps it's not a bad philosophy. If AU finishes strong and gets as far as the Sugar Bowl, I think that will bring kids in.
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 11:56 am to
Fixing shite on the field was priority #1 for them, and rightfully so. I'm sure the staff is doing everything behind the scenes for recruiting...I just wanted to hear some interest from new high-profile recruits at this point. Getting a win against UGA would probably help out a great deal.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 12:22 pm to
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where would you like it?...


I'd like some more high school talent particularly OL, WR, DL, and S.

My main point though is when people start throwing out the "filling needs" and "diamonds in the rough" crap it's a sure sign things aren't great.

Also, not sure how you can say this class is better (on paper) than Gene's first full class.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 12:25 pm to
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My main point though is when people start throwing out the "filling needs" and "diamonds in the rough" crap it's a sure sign things aren't great.


You think "filling needs" is crap?
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 12:58 pm to
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It's now "frivolous" to sign as many good players as possible? That's a good one.

Recruiting obviously isn't going as well as we'd like.
I take it you did not read the quality of recruit post that we are in the top 10 in quality on every site? It was posted a few posts up from your first post.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:02 pm to
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Also, not sure how you can say this class is better (on paper) than Gene's first full class


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As of Oct 31st of 2009 (chizik's first year) we had 16 commits (two were kickers)... Malzahn's current class is well ahead (based on player ranking) than Chizik's first class.

So yes... it is better and is going to be better.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:09 pm to
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LINK

As of Oct 31st of 2009 (chizik's first year) we had 16 commits (two were kickers)... Malzahn's current class is well ahead (based on player ranking) than Chizik's first class.

So yes... it is better and is going to be better.
You might want to take a look at that complete class. Auburn finished 4th on ESPN and Rivals for that class and 6th on Scout. I doubt this class gets close to those numbers.
This post was edited on 10/31/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:12 pm to
It may end up being better on the field, since a lot of the guys from that class were befallen by tragedy, didn't pan out, or ended up in jail, but on paper it won't be nearly as solid as that class was unless some guys start coming out of nowhere.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:13 pm to
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this year is going better than Chiz's first year (started off slow, closed strong),


this was the original point I was making... I am fully aware of where that class finished (and subsequently where it started).

The chicken little mentality based on where we are right now in recruiting is stupid, imo. A first year coach starting "slow" but still ending with a very good class isn't unprecedented at Auburn.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:14 pm to
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You think "filling needs" is crap?


No but when it is the first thing used to describe a recruiting class it's basicalyly a nice way of saying it's average.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:16 pm to
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paper it won't be nearly as solid as that class was unless some guys start coming out of nowhere


Look at the dates of the commitments... in October of Chizik's first year we were in worse shape than we are now, while having a worse season...
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:18 pm to
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The chicken little mentality based on where we are right now in recruiting is stupid


I haven't seen any chicken littles. Just some people who realize our recruiting class, as it currently stands, is not good enough to get us back to the elite in this conference.

Doesn't mean it can't change over the next 3 months or that one average class is going to ruin us but if we're being honest I think we all would have expected/hoped for a little more given our staff.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:20 pm to
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Look at the dates of the commitments... in October of Chizik's first year we were in worse shape than we are now, while having a worse season...


But who are we even still in on that we have a really good shot for that is going to get this class to that level? Evans maybe?

I can't think of any other big time recruit left that we have a better than 50% for as it stands today.
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:30 pm to
Our biggest recruiting weekends are in front of us... both the UGA and Bama weekends are gonna be huge. Also, this staff showed last year that it can close the deal in January.

From an overall talent and roster standpoint, we a in significantly better shape than when either Tuberville or Chizik took over... there's no reason for us to go out and take 30+ commitments... we will get ours, I have no doubts... some guys that no one is even talking about right now (like an elijah daniel).
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:40 pm to
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From an overall talent and roster standpoint, we a in significantly better shape than when Chizik took over


I actually think we are in a very similar position to when Chizik took over roster wise. Extremely strong junior class that just lacked direction and a QB.

We saw what happened when we got that direction and QB in 2010 and while Marshall is no Cam based on what we have coming back next year and the fact most every other SEC contender will be losing their QB we could do big things next year.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:41 pm to
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But who are we even still in on that we have a really good shot for


First: Articles have been put out saying that a number of recruits are starting to pick up interest in Auburn after our start. We may not be in the thick of it right now but that comes with time. Still a few months till NSD and our biggest recruiting weekends are ahead of us


Second: With the senior season wrapping up, new players (see Chris Jones last year) will pop up once new highlight film comes out. We will be a trendy team as mentioned above
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:47 pm to
It's similar, but we're still in much better shape... in 2009, we had absolutely no depth on either the OL or DL... the spring game was embarrassing with out 2nd string lines. We're also much better off at the QB position. The roster is much more balanced among all positions than it was in 2009. We also haven't had the same high number of attrition that many first year coaches have.

Malzahn inherited a good bit of talent... we're in much better shape to not have a drop off similar to what we experienced in 2011, imo.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:55 pm to
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Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 10/31/13 at 1:59 pm to
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We also haven't had the same high number of attrition that many first year coaches have.
This has been huge IMO. Probably due to the fact that Gus had a preexisting relationship with a majority of our current players.
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