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re: 2013 Best Auburn Plays - gifs

Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 12:15 pm to
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so what that a good no call or what

serious question



The justification for the no call was that Kris Frost didn't make the tackle by the horse collar. His hand was on Manziel's arm and you can tell by the gif that he is taken down not by his hand on the jersey but his hand on Manziel's arm.

NCAA rule changes in 2008 say that a horse collar tackle is made when the defender grabs the inside of the shoulderpads (I guess jersey counts) and drags the player all the way to the ground by this method. As pointed out earlier, Frost did not drag him all the way to the gorund by the shoulder pads but spun him around using his arm. Ergo, proper call
This post was edited on 10/24/13 at 12:27 pm
Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 10/24/13 at 2:14 pm to
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NCAA rule changes in 2008 say that a horse collar tackle is made when the defender grabs the inside of the shoulderpads (I guess jersey counts) and drags the player all the way to the ground by this method.
In the NFL, you can be inside the jersey, just not inside the shoulderpads - this was actually pointed out during either Sunday night's or Monday night's game.

If you go by the NFL rulebook, it was a clean play. Now NCAA rules vary slightly in many instances from the NFL, so the NCAA may include just grabbing the shirt collar. Either way I think it was a good no call.

There have been a few plays against AU, I think against either Mason or Marshall in the MSU game, and maybe one in the Ole Miss game, and they were not called.
Posted by TemperdTiger
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 9:12 am to
Anyone have a gif of Tre Mason on these two runs...he just barrels under a couple defenders and Prosch for the first down and lays across Desmukes for that final touchdown.
ESPN Tra Mason
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:14 am to
NCAA rules about horse collar tackles views them from how they get tackled. If your hand is there but youddon't drag them all the way to the ground It is not a horse collar
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:17 am to
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NCAA rules about horse collar tackles views them from how they get tackled. If your hand is there but youddon't drag them all the way to the ground It is not a horse collar


correct, the jersey is included in the HC def. but if it isnt the sole means of the tackle, its not a horse collar
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:33 am to
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correct, the jersey is included in the HC def. but if it isnt the sole means of the tackle, its not a horse collar


I hate bullshite articles like this that at the ending claim "it definitely was a horse collar" when they don't know shite about the rules

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Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:36 am to
thats because they see one part of the definition in the rule book and go with it. They dont look further for the qualifiers
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 1:33 pm to
I don't know how y'all watch that replay and don't see a horsecollar. Yes, Frost let go on the way down, but we got away with one. I couldn't care less because that's not what lost Texas A&M the game, but he has his fingers inside the shoulder pads and dragged him down to start the tackle.

That could've been easily called, and if that was A&M's LB tackling Marshall like that, we all would've been irate, too. Just sayin'.
This post was edited on 10/25/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 1:47 pm to
maybe...doesnt matter now.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 1:51 pm to
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I don't know how y'all watch that replay and don't see a horsecollar


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If the ball carrier is grabbed by the shoulder or jersey and just ridden to the ground over a couple of yards, that's not going to be a foul."


per the NCAA football secretary-rules editor and coordinator of football officials for the Southeastern Conference
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 10/25/13 at 1:52 pm to
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...doesnt matter now.


Nope
Posted by IuseAU
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Posted on 10/26/13 at 8:05 am to
didn't mean to OT this thread





This post was edited on 10/26/13 at 8:34 am
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 10/27/13 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 10/27/13 at 2:28 pm to
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Jake
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 12:38 am to
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but he has his fingers inside the shoulder pads and dragged him down to start the tackle.


In the NCAA, a horsecollar tackle is not "starting a tackle" but the complete tackle from start to finish that is made by dragging a player down by the collar of his shoulder pads.

Proper no call which is surprising

quote:

if that was A&M's LB tackling Marshall like that, we all would've been irate, too. Just sayin'.


Just because it is true doesn't mean we would be right
Posted by auzach91
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Posted on 10/28/13 at 5:23 pm to
Gotta get one of the dee ford dance. Finally saw it at the beginning of fau game
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 8:37 am to
I know its a long shot but are there any good gifs of frazier? preferably vs arky, and or a rushing TD or running over someone

I have a thread idea
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:04 am to
Next time a Bama fan makes any comment about gimmicky offense...

Posted by IuseAU
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 12:58 pm to
Dee





Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 1:04 pm to
is that the dance he got a penalty for?
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