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re: 2013 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread: Abandon All Hope, Ye Who Enter

Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by auburnu008
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:21 pm to
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I don't know about that, but if he's anything close to McNeill I can fap to that.

Trust me I think it is crazy talk as well but I have heard it from 2 coaches and a former player still around the program. They all said the kid is the best they have seen at this point in his career.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:22 pm to
Lord I hope not. That would mean Kiehl didnt do enough this season to warrant keeping his position into next fall.

Scary thought
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:24 pm to
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That's assuming KF doesn't excel this year. I'm not ready to assume that just yet


Everything I am hearing Jonesy would suggest that Frazier is not going to excel this coming year. Unless something clicks come showtime it doesn't appear to be that way. I know you are way more connected than me but everyone I have talked to seems to believe that given a year Wallace is going to put up a strong fight for a starting role.

Twitter Cam was very physically imposing but the guy is an idiot. I heard the true story of his public intox sometime last week and man he is a moron. He was asking for it and not surprised since I have seen him around at the bars.

Greg Robinson used his redshirt year like a boss and he is absolutely jacked. The man looks like a body builder.

This post was edited on 8/24/12 at 12:12 am
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:31 pm to
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Everything I am hearing Jonesy would suggest that Frazier is not going to excel this coming year. Unless something clicks come showtime it doesn't appear to be that way. I know you are way more connected than me but everyone I have talked to seems to believe that given a year Wallace is going to put up a strong fight for a starting role.


Remind me next time that I step out of line that your opinion on KF sucking up a season that hasn't started yet carries a shittton of weight because you've talked to some people.

It doesn't really matter who you've talked to or who is more connected. All that is bullshite anyways. Half of the football players I talk to can't tie their own cleats up. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't get your dick hard on someone's opinion about a players performance in a season that hasn't even started yet. Rookie move.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:39 pm to
Thank you, now I don't need to respond.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:55 pm to
The implication was not that he was going to suck up a season. The point being that Frazier is a true sophomore. and there are few true sophomore qbs in the sec and NCAA that in your words "excel" historically The fact that he has locked up a starting job by default and that he is also entering a completely foreign offense, plus hearing from people would suggest he isn't going to put up star numbers. All I said was given a year Wallace will put up a strong fight for a starting role because he is that talented.

I am rooting for Frazier to be a stud and I hope he is all sec but I am not putting money on that and I don't think you would either. If Wallace is as good as advertised and Frazier doesn't become a star there is no reason Wallace shouldn't be given a chance to compete and that he won't make it close.

I fail to understand why you have a stick up your arse by me saying I don't think Frazier will excel. I think he will be solid and hopefully above average SEC but that doesn't and shouldnt lock down a starting job if you are competing for championships.

Chill out
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 11:57 pm to
It's not about what you said. It's about how you said it. It irks me when people take an authorative stance on something based off their opinion. Nobody likes that shite no matter what you're talking about.

Get off your high horse because you talked to some people. All I'm saying. And I'll be sure to chill out
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:18 am to
Honestly I didn't even realize I was doing that. Probably should read what I post before I post it

My bad forgive me?

Honestly I could not care less who is QB as long as we win. Whether it be Frazier, Wallace or Crybaby Cam with a bum shoulder. I just am not banking on anyone putting up stellar numbers this year. Loved to be proven wrong though
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:23 am to
No problem, no hard feelings and such. Just trying to protect the sanctity of this thread. You're good people
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 12:54 am to
And I see what you mean about listening to people's opinion. According to what people hear out of Miss State, they are going to the SECCG on a yearly basis. I need to start taking things with a grain of salt

Serious Auburn note though, I did hear they were already starting to talk to people about taking a redshirt year. Anyone know when we will know who on the roster will be getting one?

Posted by Lee County Tiger
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 1:22 am to
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No problem, no hard feelings and such. Just trying to protect the sanctity of this thread. You're good people




My opinion, from talking to people who know, is that you have hard feelings. And my people are more connected than your people.





BOOM ROASTED KILLJOY!
Posted by smuphy72
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:00 am to
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Serious Auburn note though, I did hear they were already starting to talk to people about taking a redshirt year. Anyone know when we will know who on the roster will be getting one?


Gimel President, Jonathan Jones, Robert leff,Tyler Nero, Josh Holsey.

Just off the top of my head.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:34 am to
Holsey is redshirting? I thought I heard he was going to contribute this season.
Posted by George Feeny
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 2:52 am to
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I heard the true story of his public intox sometime last week and man he is a moron. He was asking for it and not surprised since I have seen him around at the bars.


I think we may have heard the same story but I can't say I wasn't shocked by how brainless it was. Took some balls, though.
Posted by smuphy72
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 5:57 am to
Could be wrong, but I've heard his name floated around for a redshirt.


Could contribute on ST from day one.
Posted by weaglebeagle
Alabama
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:24 am to
I had also heard a bit from Johnathan (sp?) Jones and thought he might contribute on special teams because of his speed. From what I can tell the coaches like to use people like him there, especially if he likes to hit. Kind of like Demetruce Mcneal in his freshman year when he and Craig Sanders were busting heads.

Speaking of that, we should see that again this year. Last year we had so many touchbacks due to the Parkey bombs but it sounds like this year they're going to try to pin people down. So while people like Craig Sanders may not get a lot of play time at their true position, they can still shine on special teams. I liked the safeness of the touchbacks but to me hardly nothing pumps a team up like hitting the other team in the mouth when they are trying to return a kick.

I'm loving the stuff I'm hearing about Robinson and Kozan. The two lines are going to be special for the next few years based on the players we have now and ones coming in this class. I am a little disappointed to hear that about Westermann. In a way it sounds like the offensive line version of Nick Fairley, as far as turning it on is concerned. Sounds like if he gets the blocking part of the game down he could be a huge weapon. I'm confident Grimes can get him there.

Posted by Gnar Cat21
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:33 am to
Anybody the most recent Reuben foster interview interview

Dude is a clown man


Said he was still recruiting hard for us
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:51 am to
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Wallace is going to be our #2. From what I have been hearing he "gets" the offense better than anyone else and he is an absolute workhorse when it comes to effort and work ethic



They want to redshirt him if at all possible. Mosely is number two on the depth chart.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 6:59 am to
How did KF win by default? He doesnt control injuries and dismissals.
Posted by AUTiger5
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Posted on 8/24/12 at 7:14 am to
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How did KF win by default? He doesnt control injuries and dismissals.


Not going to say he won by default, but his main "competitor" has a chronic shoulder injury and the other QB is a true FR.

Neither one of them was going to start. I do think Wallace's performance and knowledge throughout camp made the coaches draw the decision out, but a true FR has to be REALLY special to start Day One in this league. Wasn't gonna happen.

I just hope Kiehl's the real deal. This offense needs him to be an impact player.
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