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Posted on 12/29/13 at 5:50 pm to GenesChin
We aren't gonna see people play that haven't played in months are we?
Posted on 12/29/13 at 6:31 pm to Aubie Spr96
Not sure I understand that question... 
Posted on 12/29/13 at 9:13 pm to warrreagle93
Here's the deal and what we know. We know the ACC from #2 to the bottom of the conference was terrible this year.. they've all shown inconsistency and bad play. What we don't know and won't find out is if any of that rubbed off onto a very talented FSU team.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 10:23 pm to Rig
Exactly. I think FSU is SEC quality, what I'll be interested to know is if having it too easy is a detriment or a positive?
One thing I do truly believe is Auburn will not get down emotionally if they get behind. Even late in the game.
One thing I do truly believe is Auburn will not get down emotionally if they get behind. Even late in the game.
Posted on 12/29/13 at 10:38 pm to jrljr
Since Holsey and Garrett were traveling with the team, I wondered if they would be playing?
Posted on 12/29/13 at 10:48 pm to N97883
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One thing I do truly believe is Auburn will not get down emotionally if they get behind. Even late in the game.
Alot of this comes from Marshall, and Gus.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 1:59 am to Aubie Spr96
Both of them are eligible for redshirts correct?
They may also serve roles with the scout teams and can be utilized during bowl practice in Cali
They may also serve roles with the scout teams and can be utilized during bowl practice in Cali
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:31 am to GenesChin
Garrett is a RS and I'm not certain on Holsey. Don't think it's been made official yet. I doubt Holsey is ready to do anything other than rehab.
Is it just me or does anyone else get the feeling that Garrett will be fighting this type thing from now on? Maybe is he stays off it until Spring? IDK but dangit!
Is it just me or does anyone else get the feeling that Garrett will be fighting this type thing from now on? Maybe is he stays off it until Spring? IDK but dangit!
Posted on 12/30/13 at 2:50 pm to jrljr
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I doubt Holsey is ready to do anything other than rehab.
Yeah, no way Holsey is able to do anything football related yet.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 6:24 pm to N97883
From AL.com someone put this together:
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Cliborne Pimperton
FSU 2013 results:
Pittsburg 41-13 (lost 5, to VaTech, Navy, GaTech, NC, Miami)
Nevada 62-7 (lost 8, including 5 by more than 14 points)
Bethune-Cookman 54-6 (lost 3; FCS Division school)
@ Boston College 48-34 (lost 5, lost by 28 at USC, 24 at NC)
Maryland 63-0 (lost 6, by 24 to Wake Forest)
@ Clemson 51-14 (lost 2, by 14 to South Carolina final game)
NC State 49-17 (lost 9, 7 by 14+ points)
Miami 41-14 (lost 4, all by 18+ points)
@ Wake Forest 59-3 (lost 8. only wins- Presby), Army, NC St, Maryland
Syracuse 59-3 (lost 6, including 56-0 to GaTech)
Idaho 80-14 (lost 11, including 59-14 to Ole Miss)
@ Florida 37-7 (lost 8 incl GA Southrn; only SEC wins- Ark, Tenn, Ken)
Duke ACC CG 45-7 (lost 3)
2013 Regular season D1 FBS opponents' combined W-L record: Wins-60 Losses-72
Oregon Ducks 2010 results:
New Mexico 72–0
Tennessee 48–13
Portland State 69–0
Arizona State 42–31
Stanford 52–31
Wash State 43–23
UCLA 60–13
USC 53–32
Wash 53–16
California 15–13
Arizona 48–29
Oregon State 37–20
Auburn 19–22
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Cliborne Pimperton
FSU 2013 results:
Pittsburg 41-13 (lost 5, to VaTech, Navy, GaTech, NC, Miami)
Nevada 62-7 (lost 8, including 5 by more than 14 points)
Bethune-Cookman 54-6 (lost 3; FCS Division school)
@ Boston College 48-34 (lost 5, lost by 28 at USC, 24 at NC)
Maryland 63-0 (lost 6, by 24 to Wake Forest)
@ Clemson 51-14 (lost 2, by 14 to South Carolina final game)
NC State 49-17 (lost 9, 7 by 14+ points)
Miami 41-14 (lost 4, all by 18+ points)
@ Wake Forest 59-3 (lost 8. only wins- Presby), Army, NC St, Maryland
Syracuse 59-3 (lost 6, including 56-0 to GaTech)
Idaho 80-14 (lost 11, including 59-14 to Ole Miss)
@ Florida 37-7 (lost 8 incl GA Southrn; only SEC wins- Ark, Tenn, Ken)
Duke ACC CG 45-7 (lost 3)
2013 Regular season D1 FBS opponents' combined W-L record: Wins-60 Losses-72
Oregon Ducks 2010 results:
New Mexico 72–0
Tennessee 48–13
Portland State 69–0
Arizona State 42–31
Stanford 52–31
Wash State 43–23
UCLA 60–13
USC 53–32
Wash 53–16
California 15–13
Arizona 48–29
Oregon State 37–20
Auburn 19–22
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:06 pm to N97883
Added information to the bottom half of that list for comparability to the 2010 season. We all know how that championship game ended.
Oregon Ducks 2010 results:
New Mexico 72–0 (Mountain West Conference. Lost 11, only win against Wyoming at home by 3)
Tennessee 48–13 (SEC. Lost 7, including a 31 point thumping by Bama)
Portland State 69–0 (Big Sky Conference. Lost 9, wins against Idaho State and UC Davis)
Arizona State 42–31 (PAC 10. Lost 6, including losses against Wisconsin USC and Stanford)
Stanford 52–31 (PAC 10. Only loss was to Oregon. Significant win by the Ducks.)
Wash State 43–23 (PAC 10. Lost 10, one win against conference foe Oregon State [5-7], 38 point loss to Stanford)
UCLA 60–13 (PAC 10. Lost 8, including a +25 point loss to Cal)
USC 53–32 (PAC 10. Lost 5 to conference foes + Notre Dame)
Wash 53–16 (PAC 10. Lost 6, loss to Stanford for +40 points)
California 15–13 (PAC 10. Lost 7, including +25 point loss to Oregon State)
Arizona 48–29 (PAC 10. Lost 6, including 2OT loss against Arizona State)
Oregon State 37–20 (PAC 10. Lost 7, double digit losses to Oregon, Stanford, Washington State, Boise State)
Auburn 19–22 (SEC. Undefeated in regular season.)
2010 Regular season D1 FBS opponents' combined W-L record (before championship game against Auburn): Wins-63 Losses-74
Oregon Ducks 2010 results:
New Mexico 72–0 (Mountain West Conference. Lost 11, only win against Wyoming at home by 3)
Tennessee 48–13 (SEC. Lost 7, including a 31 point thumping by Bama)
Portland State 69–0 (Big Sky Conference. Lost 9, wins against Idaho State and UC Davis)
Arizona State 42–31 (PAC 10. Lost 6, including losses against Wisconsin USC and Stanford)
Stanford 52–31 (PAC 10. Only loss was to Oregon. Significant win by the Ducks.)
Wash State 43–23 (PAC 10. Lost 10, one win against conference foe Oregon State [5-7], 38 point loss to Stanford)
UCLA 60–13 (PAC 10. Lost 8, including a +25 point loss to Cal)
USC 53–32 (PAC 10. Lost 5 to conference foes + Notre Dame)
Wash 53–16 (PAC 10. Lost 6, loss to Stanford for +40 points)
California 15–13 (PAC 10. Lost 7, including +25 point loss to Oregon State)
Arizona 48–29 (PAC 10. Lost 6, including 2OT loss against Arizona State)
Oregon State 37–20 (PAC 10. Lost 7, double digit losses to Oregon, Stanford, Washington State, Boise State)
Auburn 19–22 (SEC. Undefeated in regular season.)
2010 Regular season D1 FBS opponents' combined W-L record (before championship game against Auburn): Wins-63 Losses-74
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:29 pm to LandofDixie
2013 FSU is significantly better than 2010 Oregon... at pretty much every personnel grouping except RB. Better QB, OL, WRs, and way better defense.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:52 pm to lowspark12
is that significantly better a statistical call or eyeball call. I don't care either way but if it's statistical then we have to try and compare 2010 PAC1# football to 2013 ACC football.
I still contend FSU is SEC quality but I also believe they would've been left out to dry had Alabama and Oregon run the table.
I still contend FSU is SEC quality but I also believe they would've been left out to dry had Alabama and Oregon run the table.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 7:57 pm to lowspark12
I agree that FSU is better than 2010 Oregon at almost every position. I wouldn't call them 'significantly' better, though.
To add without comment - total point differentials for the regular season:
2010 Oregon: 592-221 (avg. diff. per game: 49-17)
2013 FSU: 689-132 (avg. diff. per game: 53-10)
Keep in mind 2013 FSU played one more game (13) than 2010 Oregon (12) during the regular season.
To add without comment - total point differentials for the regular season:
2010 Oregon: 592-221 (avg. diff. per game: 49-17)
2013 FSU: 689-132 (avg. diff. per game: 53-10)
Keep in mind 2013 FSU played one more game (13) than 2010 Oregon (12) during the regular season.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 8:07 pm to LandofDixie
Pac10 is also better than the ACC
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:34 pm to GenesChin
And I think the 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 PAC10 is better than the 2013 ACC.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 9:41 pm to N97883
When it comes to the pundits and talking heads on tv, not a damn one of them predicted Auburn vs Mizzou for the SEC Championship.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:35 pm to N97883
Conference strength is fun for discussions, but when the whistle blows on 1/6, SOS won't mean shite.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:49 pm to lowspark12
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Conference strength is fun for discussions, but when the whistle blows on 1/6, SOS won't mean shite.
Obviously. We are arguing over who is going to win and playing high level football definitely factors in
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