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Braves - Week 3 Thread (4/9-4/11 at Nats; 4/13-4/15 at Cubs)
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/9/18 at 10:41 am
The big question...will this be Acuna week? I'm thinking probably not at this point, but we'll see...
Projected Starters:
4/9 - Teheran vs Scherzer
4/10 - Folty vs Strasburg
4/11 - McCarthy vs Cole
We'll need Folty and McCarthy to be on point. I don't see Scherzer struggling against us a 2nd straight time.
These are guesses based on the current rotation:
4/13 - Sanchez vs Darvish
4/14 - Newcomb vs Quintana
4/15 - Teheran vs Chatwood
Could easily be Newk/Teheran/Folty if they decide to skip the 5th starter again, but I'm thinking that won't be likely since Sanchez did ok in his first outing.
Records against opponents so far:
Phi (2-1)
Wash (2-1)
Col. (2-1)
Projected Starters:
4/9 - Teheran vs Scherzer
4/10 - Folty vs Strasburg
4/11 - McCarthy vs Cole
We'll need Folty and McCarthy to be on point. I don't see Scherzer struggling against us a 2nd straight time.
These are guesses based on the current rotation:
4/13 - Sanchez vs Darvish
4/14 - Newcomb vs Quintana
4/15 - Teheran vs Chatwood
Could easily be Newk/Teheran/Folty if they decide to skip the 5th starter again, but I'm thinking that won't be likely since Sanchez did ok in his first outing.
Records against opponents so far:
Phi (2-1)
Wash (2-1)
Col. (2-1)
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:38 pm to VinegarStrokes
I'd guess Acuna comes up next week.
Also, frick the gNats
Also, frick the gNats
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:47 pm to VinegarStrokes
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The big question...will this be Acuna week?
I HIGHLY doubt it right now. Isn't he like 0-8 in AAA?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:50 pm to DoubleDown
quote:Because that matters
Isn't he like 0-8 in AAA?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 1:58 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Because that matters
?? It doesn't help his cause.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:00 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Because that matters
8 at bats certainly don't matter over the course of the season, but I'm sure the Braves won't call up Acuna if he is slumping given how well Tucker has played so far.
0-8 is not a slump though, so it would take several more games before it really becomes a question.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:05 pm to DoubleDown
It's two games, nothing he could've done in those two games would help or hurt his cause. His astronomical spring training numbers and strong performance last season are really all that matter.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:38 pm to SumterCoDawg
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His astronomical spring training numbers and strong performance last season are really all that matter.
those things don't really matter either. If the Atl Braves are winning and drawing good enough crowds, and if Tucker keeps hitting, then I think AA would use any excuse to keep him down for longer. If that meant he had to say to the press "well, Acuna started the year 0-8, so we think he needs more time to develop", then that's what he'll do.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:53 pm to VinegarStrokes
4/9/18 Lineup (first pitch 7:05)
Posted on 4/9/18 at 2:56 pm to VinegarStrokes
Spring training means less than 0%. Just look at Ohtani.
Acuna is going to have to hit in AAA and make them call him up.
Acuna is going to have to hit in AAA and make them call him up.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:40 pm to devils1854
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Acuna is going to have to hit in AAA and make them call him up.
Nah - they know what he is. They saw him in AAA last year (and AA, and High-A, and Fall League). 2 weeks in Gwinnett isn't going to convince them he's ready or not. He's ready, they've all but admitted it.
I think it'll be more about if they decide to give Tucker a longer audition full time out there or not. If they do, they'll want Acuna getting everyday at-bats at Gwinnett, not platooning in Atlanta.
I think they've made it clear to the beat writers that he is coming up, though. Bowman said he was coming, just depended whether it was in Chicago or back home for Philly. Bowman wouldn't have said that if he wasn't basically flat out told it.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:50 pm to devils1854
quote:Child please, he's proven over the last year that he's ready, and a few minor league games aren't going to change that unless he goes full Schimpf and has 20 K's over the next 5 days. We don't really gain anything by keeping him down longer unless you keep him down for another 2 months for the Super-2 cutoff, right? And doing that would further alienate a disgruntled fanbase and let everybody know we really don't care about winning this year.
Acuna is going to have to hit in AAA and make them call him up.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/9/18 at 3:54 pm to VinegarStrokes
quote:They matter exponentially more than the opening week of minor league season.
those things don't really matter either.
quote:The performance of a 28 year old with a career -.3 WAR and the ever declining Nick Markakis should have no impact on when a consensus #1 prospect makes his debut.
if Tucker keeps hitting, then I think AA would use any excuse to keep him down for longer.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:36 pm to SumterCoDawg
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SumterCoDawg
You aren't really paying attention to what is being said. I don't think AA wants to bring him up. He's said over and over that he thinks he was rushed. He is looking for any excuse to keep him down.
I am not saying that 8 at bats matter. I am not saying that Tucker's performance matters. I am not saying that he isn't ready. I am saying that these are the excuses that will be given to hide the fact that they just don't want to call him up yet.
He very wellat get called up on Monday regardless, but I'm not convinced based on every interview that AA has given (and I'm pretty sure I heard 95% if them since he was hired).
Posted on 4/9/18 at 4:44 pm to VinegarStrokes
Everyone here replying to me is thinking rationally as a fan, but you have to think the way the front office and specifically AA thinks. Coppy, and his pushing every prospect is over. AA wants to move players slowly though the system. He has said it multiple times in interviews.
I could be wrong, but I really dont think Acuna will be called up in the next week, especially if Tucker is still playing well.
Im still going with my Memorial Day prediction for him.
I could be wrong, but I really dont think Acuna will be called up in the next week, especially if Tucker is still playing well.
Im still going with my Memorial Day prediction for him.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:19 pm to VinegarStrokes
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I am not saying that 8 at bats matter. I am not saying that Tucker's performance matters. I am not saying that he isn't ready. I am saying that these are the excuses that will be given to hide the fact that they just don't want to call him up yet.
I wasn't being clear with my response but my comment regarding our current outfield's impact on calling up Ronald wasn't directed at you, more so the situation in general and how those in the FO are hopefully viewing it, because I have it on good authority that AA reads the board.
quote:To me, when he's been asked about Acuña it seems that he's just trying to cover his arse because more and more people are jumping all over teams/GMs that don't put prospects considered "ready" on the OD roster, even though the CBA is to blame. Maybe I'm wrong and he really is being honest, but it seems like he's said the same thing that most GMs say in this situation to get people off their back.
but I'm not convinced based on every interview that AA has given
quote:I mean, AA did put a couple of 20 year olds in the AAA rotation, and was pretty aggressive with putting Tarnok in Rome to start the year. I don't think we'll see another situation like we had with Dansby, who didn't even get a full year of pro ball in before he was in Atlanta, but they'll still probably be aggressive with guys they think can handle it.
Coppy, and his pushing every prospect is over. AA wants to move players slowly though the system. He has said it multiple times in interviews.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bowman did say however, that if he struggles it might be a few more days.
I truly think AA is being truthful with the "these guys are rushed" thought but the cat is already out of the bag with Acuna. The cat is already out of the bag with Soroka. He cannot hold either of them back for very long.
Acuna will be up sooner rather than later and Soroka will be up sometime in June-July.
Now, going forward, AA is likely going to go one league per year with every other prospect unless said prospect goes off and hits .350 to .400 or does something ridiculous pitching wise. But with guys like Acuna and Soroka, even Riley to an extent, it's too late for him to put his fingerprints of what "he" really wants.
I truly think AA is being truthful with the "these guys are rushed" thought but the cat is already out of the bag with Acuna. The cat is already out of the bag with Soroka. He cannot hold either of them back for very long.
Acuna will be up sooner rather than later and Soroka will be up sometime in June-July.
Now, going forward, AA is likely going to go one league per year with every other prospect unless said prospect goes off and hits .350 to .400 or does something ridiculous pitching wise. But with guys like Acuna and Soroka, even Riley to an extent, it's too late for him to put his fingerprints of what "he" really wants.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 5:49 pm to SECFan1995
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The cat is already out of the bag with Soroka. He cannot hold either of them back for very long.
Yep. As long as he can generate excuses based on concrete data and results, I think he'll try and hold him back. But if Acuna goes on a tear this week and Tucker begins to slow down, then he'll be forced to bring him up.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:25 pm to VinegarStrokes
This game pretty much played out like I thought it would. Although Im pleasantly surprised with Julio's effort.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:30 pm to VinegarStrokes
Yeah when Scherzer is dealing like that, there isn't much you can really do
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