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re: Would you consider South Carolina a superior football program?
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:03 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:03 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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they beat Ohio state in the sugar bowl year before last[/quote
They beat half of them in an irrelevant scrimmage for their 2nd teamers. Huge! Really means a lot with that Music City Bowl follow up and predicted 12th place finish this year. Rolling.
[quote]I would trade all of the trips to Omaha we’ve had the last 10 years for that 2010 football team to be on the field next year. It doesn’t impress me to lose in the college World Series anymore than winning the sugar bowl does for you.
Very different things yes. One can win a title the other is SMU/Indiana and just happy to be there and maybe win one game but no shot at a title. As good as that team was they had no defense and got blown out by LSU and Bama. I just care about a title shot anymore and we can win one in hoops and baseball currently any season.
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:58 am to UltimateHog
quote:really? I haven’t seen anything that says that
we can win one in hoops and baseball currently any season.
ETA: so let me ask you. You are saying you would take a Jeff long or Hunter Yurachek athletic department over Broyles’s? You think that our athletic department is better now then it was 15 years ago, because we will never win a championship in football so it’s better to just let it die and focus on everything else?
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 10:38 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I think you should focus on what you're good at yes. That's not football for us and outside of a couple of years with Petrino it hasn't been that for a very very long time. Sometimes you just have to be honest and realistic. There are tons of schools that just go all in on one sport yet alone two.
We can win a title in basketball, baseball, softball currently because they have great coaches and a huge top tier of their sport NIL backing. We have at last report a top 5 NIL in all 3 of those sports. Go where the money is.
We can win a title in basketball, baseball, softball currently because they have great coaches and a huge top tier of their sport NIL backing. We have at last report a top 5 NIL in all 3 of those sports. Go where the money is.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:11 am to UltimateHog
Fair enough. We just have a different view as what the direction of Arkansas athletics should be 
Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:26 pm to UltimateHog
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I think you should focus on what you're good at yes. That's not football for us and outside of a couple of years with Petrino it hasn't been that for a very very long time. Sometimes you just have to be honest and realistic. There are tons of schools that just go all in on one sport yet alone two.
We can win a title in basketball, baseball, softball currently because they have great coaches and a huge top tier of their sport NIL backing. We have at last report a top 5 NIL in all 3 of those sports. Go where the money is.
Agreed, although I still haven't seen anything to show that we are top 5 NIL in softball.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 2:19 pm to cubsfan5150
Also that’s like being the tallest midget on the sports bus. You think we got 5 million in softball NIL? frick no probably like 100k or less but most places aren’t gonna waste any money on that bullshite. Bragging about your softball nil is the most cope shite in this thread but again, that’s y’all’s goals. Winning natties in softball baseball and underwater basket weaving!
probably like 100k or less but most places aren’t gonna waste any money on that bullshite. Bragging about your softball nil is the most cope shite in this thread but again, that’s y’all’s goals. Winning natties in softball baseball and underwater basket weaving!
Posted on 7/31/25 at 3:12 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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You think we got 5 million in softball NIL? frick no probably like 100k or less but most places aren’t gonna waste any money on that bullshite.
This is the exception and not the rule, but Texas Tech softball signed a pitcher to a deal worth a cool $1 million.
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 4:18 pm to HogX
Texas tech cares more about sports than we do though. And don’t deny it because money talks and there investing
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Bragging about your softball nil is the most cope shite in this thread but again, that’s y’all’s goals.
you moan a lot, whine alot... and haven't learned to cope whatsoever. If you are waiting for Arkansas Football to win a NC... dude, find another hobby.
I am ecstatic that our BB Program with Cal is doing so well, and have always been proud to have DVH eating up innings in the SEC.
CD with softball is doing wonderful, Gymnastics with Weber is a fun time to watch,
It is great to enjoy other sports rather than just being a miserable hack constantly over one that will NEVER produce what you desire.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:35 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:when have I ever said that? Bro I’m talking about not being complacent with 6-6 and you say I’m waiting on Arkansas to win a natty. You know there’s something in between right? Like where we historically were? About like Iowa where we can compete for double digit wins once every 5 years. That’s all I’m asking for. But of course if you were being honest instead of obtuse building a strawman to tear down you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. You and ultimate are the only ones talking about national titles saying we should just let the football program die in hopes our other sports win it all. Which seems way more delusional imo.
you moan a lot, whine alot... and haven't learned to cope whatsoever. If you are waiting for Arkansas Football to win a NC... dude, find another hobby.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:45 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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You and ultimate are the only ones talking about national titles saying we should just let the football program die in hopes our other sports win it all. Which seems way more delusional imo.
Dude, it's already DEAD! Very few ways to revive a dead program, and we don't have the admin, financial support, or BOT to accomplish it. It has been dead since HDN, with just a final grasp of oxygen during BP's years. Then he went and stabbed it with a sharpened stake after bumping uglys with a horseface...
Posted on 8/1/25 at 8:19 am to Razorback Reverend
quote:that’s a lie. Under Houston nutt we went to Atlanta multiple times. You’re a smart guy so I don’t understand why it’s so hard for you to remember reality. I mean dude I was 10/11 years old when DMAC came through the hill. Hell my love of Razorback football started under Houston nutt. We were a Reggie fish muffed punt and Florida fake punt away from playing for a national title that year. If we had beat Florida there’s a good chance we play Ohio state for the national championship. Again, I was 11 years old at that time and I still remember it! How can you not? How can you say the program was dead at that point? I mean it’s just not true. Our program died in 2012 when we were pre season #8 in the country and Jeff long hired John L smith instead of having an actual coaching search, and then proceeded to lose 8 games.
Dude, it's already DEAD! Very few ways to revive a dead program, and we don't have the admin, financial support, or BOT to accomplish it. It has been dead since HDN, with just a final grasp of oxygen during BP's years. Then he went and stabbed it with a sharpened stake after bumping uglys with a horseface...
ETA: remember people were GLAD Houston nutt left for ole miss after having an 8 win season and going to the cotton bowl? That’s the opposite of a dead program
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 8:35 am
Posted on 8/1/25 at 9:43 am to Razorback Reverend
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Anyone keeping up with what Rhett is doing at SMU? and finebaum's saying things about Rhett trying to harm Pittman's coaching at Arkansas...
He just signed a new contract. Will be $25m+ to buy him out. 5 years at 5-7m and we are poor according to Hunter which is why we haven’t fired fatty.
I’d go with Dan Mullens in UNLV with no buyout, if we have a legit GM, he will put up big wins and embarrass us (which just that would be amazing).
Posted on 8/1/25 at 2:01 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Houston nutt we went to Atlanta multiple times.
And, Chit the bed... And the SEC wasn't crap back then.
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I mean dude I was 10/11 years old when DMAC came through the hill. Hell my love of Razorback football started under Houston nutt.
Awww, that explains it.
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there’s a good chance we play Ohio state for the national championship.
And get our women stolen, beer drunk, and biotch slapped...by Tatoo U!
Our program hasn't been respected in like forever. HDN would lose games he shouldn't and get the team fired up to beat someone he shouldn't.. His record aganst vandy was.
Again, the SEC then vs the SEC now... no contest. Add to that , other conferences were better than we were imho!
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:06 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:why? We barely lost to Florida and Florida beat the hell out of them? This is literally loser mentality and loser talk. This is the definition of poor lil arkiesaw syndrome. I’m telling you how close we came to playing for a national championship in the past 20 years ( not saying that’s the standard I understand that’s like a once in 50 years chance for Arkansas) but still it happened and not too long ago in the grand scheme of things, and we 100% would have had a shot against Ohio state that year. Nothing about how we lost to lsu or Florida would assume that had we beaten Florida Ohio state would’ve boatraced us. Yet you say it as fact. I don’t get that. I mean believe what you want we’re talking about counter factuals anyway but that just seems like a miserable way to go through life.
And get our women stolen, beer drunk, and biotch slapped...by Tatoo U!
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:13 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:in 2006? When Florida had tim Tebow and won the national championship? You do realize we played the gators better than Ohio state did right? And then in 2010 and 2011 under petrino we were top 5 teams nationally. I think both years there’s a good chance we would’ve made the college football semifinal in today’s format. The sec has been the best football conference since at least 2005. And it’s not really close when you look at draft data.
Again, the SEC then vs the SEC now... no contest. Add to that , other conferences were better than we were imho!
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:16 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:in 2006? When Florida had tim Tebow and won the national championship? You do realize we played the gators better than Ohio state did right? And then in 2010 and 2011 under petrino we were top 5 teams nationally. I think both years there’s a good chance we would’ve made the college football semifinal in today’s format. The sec has been the best football conference since at least 2005. And it’s not really close when you look at draft data.
Again, the SEC then vs the SEC now... no contest. Add to that , other conferences were better than we were imho!
Posted on 8/1/25 at 3:20 pm to Razorback Reverend
quote:also, not sure what this means. We’ve always had talented guys, even in the past 10 years we just haven’t had coaches who could get it done. But we’ve still had guys drafted just as much as we did back then. Sure they aren’t McFadden, but Brandon Allen is a 10 year nfl vet. Even as a backup, you have don’t hang around the league without being pretty damn good. It’s a travesty we didn’t win 10 games with him at least once. But that’s what happens when you lose to Toledo and Texas tech because the coach is a drunk who doesn’t care to establish a winning culture and hold his team to a standard of excellence. Deatrich wise, Trey flowers, Darius philon and Dre greenlaw were on the same team. We had a top 10 defense nationally and lost 6 games one year. Why? Poor coaching
Awww, that explains it.
Posted on 8/1/25 at 4:26 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Brandon Allen is a 10 year nfl vet. Even as a backup, you have don’t hang around the league without being pretty damn good. It’s a travesty we didn’t win 10 games with him at least once. But that’s what happens when you lose to Toledo and Texas tech
So our career clip board holder should have beaten one of the greatest QBs of all time?
I agree with you that the standard is way too low with football. Blame HY for going all in on Pittman. Pittman was hired as a cheap way to stabilize the program. Nobody thought he’d be one of our longest tenured coaches. But here we are in purgatory.
Pittman is not capable of winning on a high level. I don’t trust HY to make a great hire but assuming he does, the next HC won’t have the NIL resources to win big. It’ll take years of overachieving to attract the big nil money. So yeah if everything goes perfect were 5-10 years away from competing for championships in football.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 8/1/25 at 4:38 pm to Poker_hog
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So our career clip board holder should have beaten one of the greatest QBs of all time?
quote:I agree
everything goes perfect were 5-10 years away from competing for championships in football.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 4:40 pm
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