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Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
the problem what you wrote above is simple.

I havent watched the video at all... And what i was pointing too wasnt just that belief, or issue. But that Trump is demonized continually, and some of it is just too much.

I honestly dont care much for the dude overall, i am not a democrat, or republican and think they all absolute suck at this point in time in politics.

But my man, the amount of news media pushing agendas on both sides is sickening. The editorializing needs to stop and the news needs to be shown without bias.

BTW, there are many things Trump has done that i disagree with. "Grab her by the...." is just the beginning.

But i cant respectfully support Pelosi either, disgusting woman who follows the idea thing at any moment. Did you see the video of the Demos.. bowing at the BLM and Floyd situations. What were they wearing? Hmmmm...

Have you looked up Floyd's past... or does the criminal past not matter in this martyr situation?

ok, have a great one bud!


TheCheshireHog
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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His players have the absolute right to be pissed off he's wearing a T-shirt from a network that is famous for pushing conspiracy theories, making up news stories,


Naturally you would feel the same way if it was a CNN or MSNBC shirt because they’ve also been caught doing the same things.


Arksulli
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ok, have a great one bud!


We shall agree to disagree.

Hey, you know I love you. In a non creepy way. I disagree with you on this. Very strongly. But we can agree to disagree.


Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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We shall agree to disagree.

Hey, you know I love you. In a non creepy way. I disagree with you on this. Very strongly. But we can agree to disagree.



You too my man, you too.


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hawgfaninc
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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The reason I post my opinions on this forum and open myself up to attack and ridicule is for you , the silent ones who think they are alone in a world where their thoughts are alien or wrong. You’re not alone , millions are with you. For those of you who think you are coming from a morally superior position therefore any differing opinion or viewpoint is invalid think again. It’s the easy path to think like you , it’s in their best self interests for celebrities and politicians to support you but you will lose in the end because you are the very thing you pretend to fight against. The true fascist, the true bigots hidden in plain sight from the same party who fought to maintain slavery , Jim Crow , non voting rights for women , and who are directly responsible for 70 plus million abortions ,a large majority of whom were black. You don’t want free speech , you can’t handle free speech because you are cowards and need to be herded along with the rest of the sheep. I’m lucky , I’m in an industry where you CAN be honest about your views wherever they fall with little to no repercussions. I don’t rely on a movie studio , label , media or anyone else who will bow down to pandering political correctness and am in no danger whatsoever of “ losing my job” because you don’t like what I have to say . This is a dangerous time where free thought and speech is under attack but it will pass , the next generation is watching as they always do and they will overcome your insanity. Oh , happy birthday President Trump and good luck in November!


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hawgfaninc
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hawgfaninc
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
Gundy's promise for change yesterday apparently wasn't enough, another video with an apology was needed

LINK



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Pocket Kingz
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
Nobody who invests time into understanding politics at an above average level is gonna stan for CNN. I haven't watched CNN in 30 years; they were intrumental into leading us into the unlawful invasion of Iraq.

But Fox created the modern paradigm of 24 hour News. They were started by a Nixon toadie who basically thought everything Nixon did was fine. Fox has been lying through their teeth for years and its obvious unless you just don't want to know.

And yes, deliberately misleading people with everything going on right now is considerably worse than anything any of these grifters have pulled up until now.

How many Antifa attacks actually occured the past couple of weeks? ZERO. So the President can mention a nebulous group with zero evidence of them being guilty of anything but his personal propaganda network can mislead us into thinking that protesters are violent? All the while paramilitary groups show up with actual arsenals (and fake bazookas, yeah thats a thing) at the houses of public officals just doing their job and that's okay?

Some of yall might wanna wake the frick up.





hawgfaninc
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
Agree with you on CNN and Fox. Most media/journalism these days isn't worth our time

But why are you defending Antifa?
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Antifa is an anti-fascist political movement in the United States comprising a diverse array of autonomous groups that aim to achieve their objectives through the use of both non-violent and violent direct action rather than through policy reform. -Wikipedia


Sure they've likely not had any attacks the past couple of weeks, but their attacks in the past are well documented. Maybe their lack of attacks is due to being labeled a terrorist group, dunno.

And the paramilitary groups showed up because of violence, looting, and public property damage. Peaceful protestors would not require paramilitary. Kinda like people that resist arrest vs people that comply

But a smart guy like you probably already knew that.
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Pocket Kingz
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But why are you defending Antifa?


Pointing out that there were facebook inspired rumors about Antifa attacks on suburban neighborhoods that were utter nonsense is not defending Antifa. Fox news has trained you well.

President Trump was briefed by Intel that there was zero evidence of any Antifa attacks and still decided to make them the poster boy. Again, just stating a fact.

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And the paramilitary groups showed up because of violence, looting, and public property damage. Peaceful protestors would not require paramilitary.


You mean like the ones in Michigan who showed up to a public health officials house armed to the teeth? These groups have been gathering for various reasons outside of the Floyd protests so the bolded makes zero sense.

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Kinda like people that resist arrest vs people that comply


If this is in response to the murder of George Floyd you can frick right off.



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Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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If this is in response to the murder of George Floyd you can frick right off.


Well now... Dude, what happened was absolutely atrocious and they should be punished greatly. But to have these riots, shutting down businesses that have many African American employees isn't very intelligent in the long run.

And, who was Mr. Floyd. What was his life's accomplishments. And no, I am not trying to rationalize what happened by those pathetic police officers. But, i dont believe he has the background, to be the face of the resistance. Surely they have someone better to pick form with all of the brutality.


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WonderWartHawg
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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Kinda like people that resist arrest vs people that comply



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If this is in response to the murder of George Floyd you can frick right off.



This IS a rather big elephant in the room...

Nearly all would be alive if A. They hadn't committed a crime and B. They hadn't resisted arrest.

Floyd's death was wrong, and yes, the only crime that gets a 'death sentence' (and we are painfully slow on that) is murder.

But he would be alive today if he just played it cool.


HogX
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But he would be alive today if he just played it cool.



He also would be alive today if he weren't murdered.


Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
not trying to be a jerk here... but we can't possibly know that.

Arrested 9 times in the past for everything from Crack, Coke, Distributing, to going into a ladies house looking for the drug stash with others and being among those pistol whipping her.

Again, wouldnt be my poster boy chosen for outrage.. there are plenty of others with a much better pedigree to use. FWIW.

and I am absolutely for a change in policing.


cigsmcgee
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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Arrested 9 times in the past for everything from Crack, Coke, Distributing, to going into a ladies house looking for the drug stash with others and being among those pistol whipping her.


he also helped a ministry reach people in the projects, volunteered for baptisms, had a history mentoring gang violence intervention, and worked at a Salvation Army halfway house.

the narrative split here is to paint him as just a hood criminal to discredit the protests, and, on the other side, to paint him as a saint to remove any doubt the system is racist. like most things, the truth is in the middle.



Mason Dixon Swine
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
Thank god we dodged that bullet. It would really suck to have to fire a coach and have a shitty football team.


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FleaMarketBill
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
Dude was murdered. Nothing in his past justified being murdered in broad daylight. Also the reason they are protesting is the fact that there are "plenty of others" to choose from. That's the fricking point. They aren't protesting because they had a personal relationship with George Floyd or he was some perfect human being. If doing drugs justified being killed by police the population of Arkansas would hit pre 1900 levels.

And I would like to ask what the frick is up with the police worship in this country? I went to school with 4 guys that became police officers and they were and still are giant sacks of shite. The assistant police chief in my hometown was banging high school girls for decades. The officer that lives down the road from my brother is a fricking meth head. Cops commit domestic violence at a much higher rate than the average American. Nobody seems to dig into a cops past as much as they desperately dig into a victim's in an effort to discredit them. People act like there are a few bad apples. The truth and it is the fricking TRUTH that there are only a few good apples. If you toe the thin blue line and cover up dirty cops shite you are complicit. Cops need to be licensed. Need to carry liability insurance. Every officer has a body cam and dash cam. All complaints made against officers are made public. If there are only a few bad apples what the frick do they have to worry about?


Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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Dude was murdered. Nothing in his past justified being murdered in broad daylight. Also the reason they are protesting is the fact that there are "plenty of others" to choose from. That's the fricking point. They aren't protesting because they had a personal relationship with George Floyd or he was some perfect human being. If doing drugs justified being killed by police the population of Arkansas would hit pre 1900 levels.


Whew, and i wasnt justifying anything... as per my words above. However, he wasnt a saint in anyone's eyes but perhaps his mama's... And again, yep... shouldnt have happened. And happens too often. But it has been, and should be antithetical to burn chit, tear up chit, wreak havoc, cause harm to others. Those doing such regardless of color, sex, identity, deserve to be locked up period.

And, i agree with you on bodycams, dash cams, training, etc. Yep!


Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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he also helped a ministry reach people in the projects, volunteered for baptisms, had a history mentoring gang violence intervention, and worked at a Salvation Army halfway house.

the narrative split here is to paint him as just a hood criminal to discredit the protests, and, on the other side, to paint him as a saint to remove any doubt the system is racist. like most things, the truth is in the middle.


Good point, if true... I havent seen that, and I have looked. The lady shot in a No Knock Warrant is one that is unbelievable to me....


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Razorback Reverend
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re: We dodged a bullet with Gundy
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And I would like to ask what the frick is up with the police worship in this country? I went to school with 4 guys that became police officers and they were and still are giant sacks of shite. The assistant police chief in my hometown was banging high school girls for decades. The officer that lives down the road from my brother is a fricking meth head. Cops commit domestic violence at a much higher rate than the average American.


Well now... I guess you did a poll on all police officers and believe the vast majority as this way? Dude, what else are we to do when Meth Heads are running up and down our streets, driving like idiots, beating their kids, etc. We definitely need a police presence. and i support those who do a Thankless job at such low pay to protect and serve. I work directly with several on the local and state level. Not a one that i know, fits the description that you placed above. And again, i am speaking of over 100 of them i personally know, eat with, do fundraisers for kids with, etc.

I definitely dont worship them... but i do support their work.



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