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re: We can beat Mississippi State

Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:45 am to
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this is ranter logic if I've ever seen it.
Not a single reply about the actual matchup or the mention of Kentucky's struggles backed by a wall of stats but we get the transitive property argument. Par for the course.
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:58 am to
Statistics have limited value if they're not against comparable competition. They've played a more difficult schedule than we have to date.

If we've played a top 10 team I bet your superhero would also have more picks than TDs. I don't see us keeping it any closer than they did at USC or Mississippi state if we were to play those games. They also handled their cupcake games
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:18 am to
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If we've played a top 10 team I bet your superhero would also have more picks than TDs.
If my aunt had nuts, she'd by my uncle.

He's your QB too, you know. Or have you switched teams until next year? We already know you aren't watching as you felt the need to let that out. Is there nothing left but being negative on a board during the week about a team you aren't even watching anymore?

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I don't see us keeping it any closer than they did at USC or Mississippi state if we were to play those games.
Based on your extensive knowledge of the matchups, I take it?

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They also handled their cupcake games
We lost to Toledo and beat a top 10 LSU team in the same year not even an entire recruiting cycle ago. Using a singular result in week 4 as foundation for pouting through the whole season is weak.
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:36 am to
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Based on your extensive knowledge of the matchups, I take it?


You don't have any knowledge. No one does. You're pontificating on a message board. But continue giving me the "Drewbie's keys to the game, powered by Nissan"

No one can see the future. But we can use the past to make educated guesses about what may happen. The most concrete information from the past in my mind is the horrific loss to a shite Mountain West team. When we beat someone with a pulse, I'll change my opinion. We haven't done that since November 5, 2016.

Feel free to keep spinning meaningless and idiosyncratic observations like a completion percentage or run defense statistics as some glimmer of hope for yourself. I personally feel like that's trying to predict the jet stream based on throwing some grass in the air. But you can't feed me shite and tell me it's sugar.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:45 am to
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You don't have any knowledge. No one does.
You can get schemes from simply watching the games on TV. How many UK games have you seen this year?

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But we can use the past to make educated guesses about what may happen.
Of course.

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The most concrete information from the past in my mind is the horrific loss to a shite Mountain West team.
So your "concrete information" on the outcome of a game against Kentucky in week 7 is the result against an entirely different team in week 4 despite playing even with a ranked opponent and a bye week to prepare. Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure people at least look at the team they're going to be playing before making those kinds of calls.

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Feel free to keep spinning meaningless and idiosyncratic observations like a completion percentage or run defense statistics as some glimmer of hope for yourself.
You mean how the entire opposing team's offense has operated the entire season up until this point?

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I personally feel like that's trying to predict the jet stream based on throwing some grass in the air.
It's certainly not trying to apply transitive property to football or anything.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:42 am to
go back to hogville and feel free to frick yourself along the route.


bring something more than bullshite and we can discuss. this pity party bullshite is wearing thin.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:49 am to
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There is tangible data showcasing the game is winnable if we play well. Kentucky is AWFUL at throwing the ball and don't run it any better and their defense has been a whopping 4 points and 0.4 yards better than ours thus far. They give up nearly 30 more yards per game on the ground than we do and their offense is 5 points worse on average. UK's QB has more INTs thrown this season (5) than TDs (4). Boyd is 153 yards ahead of UK's leading rusher and Starkel has thrown for over 350 yards more than UK's Smith. Smith, by the way, has a gaudy completion percentage of 45% and a 2-5 TD-INT ratio against conference opponents.


They've played a tougher schedule than us though. Kentucky is also #42 in FPI, Arkansas is #82 currently. Both teams have the same record at 2-3, but Kentucky is predicted to finish 6-6 while Arkansas is predicted to finish 3-9.

I understand you're just saying the game is winnable and not actually predicting that Arkansas will win.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 11:58 am to
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I won't be watching. If we win, who gives a shite.


Why are you even posting here then

Just needing to vent?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64590 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:02 pm to
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this pity party bullshite is wearing thin.
I don't even mind thinking we'll lose, but talk football. If we're going to lose to Kentucky, why is that? Is it lack of faith in the lines? Not sure if the secondary can punish this horrible QB? Is there an injury at a position you worry will get exploited?

But nah let's talk about SJSU some more.

All this "we lose cuz we're arkansas" and "muh chad" shite ran dry forever ago. Calling stats for an upcoming opponent arbitrary while offering absolutely nothing but "we suck" as a counter is just sulking. There are grown adults on here adamantly contesting the sheer notion that we have a chance to win against a team that just got dominated by a team whose only win was Charleston Southern. It's nuts.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:06 pm to
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They've played a tougher schedule than us though. Kentucky is also #42 in FPI, Arkansas is #82 currently. Both teams have the same record at 2-3, but Kentucky is predicted to finish 6-6 while Arkansas is predicted to finish 3-9.
Absolutely fair and true. Their defense is better than ours for sure. I don't think it's a stretch to say this will probably be the worst QB we face all year, though. Possibly even the worst offense in general. Mr. Negative TD-INT ratio is hurt and we're getting his former WR backup. We could be in for some of the worst QB play we've seen since Kelley. I personally think that helps negate a rather large disadvantage we typically have in not being able to get the defense off the field.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:52 pm to
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go back to hogville

I thought Hogville had a reputation of housing sunshine pumpers?

It's funny you think he should go back to hogville
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 1:23 pm to
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I thought Hogville had a reputation of housing sunshine pumpers?

nah it's full of negahogs too. the common thread both the Pampers and negahogs have in common is a complete inability to discuss facts. mostly due to them not knowing shite about sports and just being upset or overly excited by their lack of knowledge
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24006 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:29 pm to
what are you called when your in the middle, confused? After reading this thread I am Bipolar as a frick!
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
10300 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:51 pm to
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Absolutely fair and true. Their defense is better than ours for sure. I don't think it's a stretch to say this will probably be the worst QB we face all year, though. Possibly even the worst offense in general. Mr. Negative TD-INT ratio is hurt and we're getting his former WR backup. We could be in for some of the worst QB play we've seen since Kelley. I personally think that helps negate a rather large disadvantage we typically have in not being able to get the defense off the field


I admire your mentality. I really do. I just have to disagree, though. When has it even mattered how terrible the opposing QB is recently? They still light up our defense no matter how bad they suck. Yea, this is the we suck cause we’re Arkansas attitude but it’s true.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:13 pm to
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what are you called when your in the middle, confused? After reading this thread I am Bipolar as a frick!




a rationale person. you're never as good as tour best win or as bad as your worst loss.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:25 pm to
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When has it even mattered how terrible the opposing QB is recently?
When is the last time we played against a WR converted QB buried 3 spots down the depth chart behind a guy that can't even manage a positive TD-INT ratio? This isn't a normal situation we're going into Saturday. We're two bad teams with identical records and two wins against cupcakes. I really don't get where this assumption of a massive talent discrepancy is coming from. If we were playing Bama or Auburn this week I would understand, but good lord people it's Kentucky.
Posted by Mason Dixon Swine
West Finger
Member since Jan 2019
2919 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:30 pm to
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I really don't get where this assumption of a massive talent discrepancy is coming from


Does Bret Bielema ring any bells? Probably why we have a huge proportion of freshman on the roster..
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64590 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:35 pm to
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Probably why we have a huge proportion of freshman on the roster..
Absolutely true, but these freshmen can ball. Each week of experience is only going to make them better. If there's anything Chad has done right so far, it's get players that were upgrades from what he had when he got here. I'm not going to throw roses at the feet of the staff, but I believe in the young talent I've seen on the field, at least to be good enough to give a team like Kentucky a run for it.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:52 pm to
I’m not saying there is a talent discrepancy. We have talent on our team to match Kentucky. It just never seems to matter. And I stand by my prediction of Kentucky’s WR QB going to light us up. If I’m wrong I’ll happily admit it.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7651 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:04 pm to
With how slow our defense is I could see him actually doing pretty well by escaping 2-3 sacks and picking up big yardage routinely since that seems to always happen to us, but he’s basically if we trotted Robert Johnson or Duwop Mitchell out there. We have to get at least one pick off of the dude.
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