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re: We can beat Mississippi State
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:51 pm to Drewbie
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:51 pm to Drewbie
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If you want to use a game in which we didn't even use our current starting QB for half the game as the barometer for how our team should perform on average, go right ahead. Don't expect most logical people to do the same, though.
I would say most logical people would extrapolate future expectations from past performance. In this case, that's 4-13, and 0-10 in the SEC, including a recent loss to San Jose State
I'm going to wait until we get an SEC win before I start thinking we can win one. It's fine if you're basing your projections on hopes and prayers in the face of observational evidence, but don't tell me how "logical" it is
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 7:39 pm to Poker_hog
it's tough sledding from here but a path to a bowl game exists if we get it together. I'm not confident we will but Kentucky msu wku and then mixzou matter big time. before you didnt have to win at mizzou which will be tough with to do with our defense
Posted on 10/6/19 at 7:48 pm to City Ham
quote:You mean the performances of the teams that had a WKU backup as their starting QB? Ok, sure.
past performance
quote:Coming from the guy drawing conclusions based on 2 conference games in which the starter has yet to play all 4 quarters, one of which without a star WR in a narrow loss to a ranked team. But sure, hopes and prayers. Nothing to do with teams like our next opponent being statistically worse so far this season even with our QB circus. That's my whole point. It's not even blind faith.
but don't tell me how "logical" it is
There is tangible data showcasing the game is winnable if we play well. Kentucky is AWFUL at throwing the ball and don't run it any better and their defense has been a whopping 4 points and 0.4 yards better than ours thus far. They give up nearly 30 more yards per game on the ground than we do and their offense is 5 points worse on average. UK's QB has more INTs thrown this season (5) than TDs (4). Boyd is 153 yards ahead of UK's leading rusher and Starkel has thrown for over 350 yards more than UK's Smith. Smith, by the way, has a gaudy completion percentage of 45% and a 2-5 TD-INT ratio against conference opponents. All stats pointing to this game as extremely winnable, yet people would rather be edgy and wallow in misery than realize we've got a shot to win a few more games.
Like I said, if your thing is conceding defeat in every game for the rest of the season in week 5, you do you. For all the bitching about Bert's players there was on here, some of their qualities certainly seem to be shared here.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:09 pm to Drewbie
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You mean the performances of the teams that had a WKU backup as their starting QB? Ok, sure.
There are coaches being paid millions that are the same from year to year. If they have no impact, we need to drop their pay. There are also a couple dozen of the same players
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Coming from the guy drawing conclusions based on 2 conference games in which the starter has yet to play all 4 quarters, one of which without a star WR in a narrow loss to a ranked team
Christ you are dense. I think there is another game you're forgetting to mention. Hint, the starter you're putting all this faith in played all four quarters of it. He threw 5 interceptions against a Mountain West squad at DWRRS. This is the guy you're basing your optimism on
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Like I said, if your thing is conceding defeat in every game for the rest of the season in week 5, you do you.
And you seem to be parroting the same shite Bert lovers spewed for years, until it became so incredibly obvious he was in over his head even the most dense ignoramus couldn't window dress with "being bielema". I've seen this before. We suck. Also, 5 games in is 41% of the season. Given Alabama and Lsu left on the schedule, we have already played 50% of our potential winnable schedule and are 2-3
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For all the bitching about Bert's players there was on here, some of their qualities certainly seem to be shared here.
You would make a great CEO for Sears or Blockbuster. Those folks beg and beseech everyone who will listen to see the bright side too. Nevermind how hopeless of a case it is and how bad the data is.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:11 pm to City Ham
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There is tangible data showcasing the game is winnable if we play well. Kentucky is AWFUL at throwing the ball and don't run it any better and their defense has been a whopping 4 points and 0.4 yards better than ours thus far. They give up nearly 30 more yards per game on the ground than we do and their offense is 5 points worse on average. UK's QB has more INTs thrown this season (5) than TDs (4). Boyd is 153 yards ahead of UK's leading rusher and Starkel has thrown for over 350 yards more than UK's Smith. Smith, by the way, has a gaudy completion percentage of 45% and a 2-5 TD-INT ratio against conference opponents. All stats pointing to this game as extremely winnable, yet people would rather be edgy and wallow in misery than realize we've got a shot to win a few more games.
Please address the hopes and prayers.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:13 pm to City Ham
quote:?
And you seem to be parroting the same shite Bert lovers spewed for years, until it became so incredibly obvious he was in over his head even the most dense ignoramus couldn't window dress with "being bielema". I've seen this before. We suck.
quote:Thinking we have winnable football games left on our schedule =/= defending the coach. I've reamed Chad on here as much as anyone since SJSU. There are many posts of mine saying I want him gone barring a miracle turnaround. You very clearly don't understand my stance. We're bad, but we're not the worst team in the SEC and thinking we have no shot against a team like Kentucky is overreacting. Their offense is fricking terrible. That's why you ignored the entire part of my post outlying the actual defense of my view.
There are definite causes for extreme concern and I'm all but assured Chad isn't the guy.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:25 pm to Drewbie
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All stats pointing to this game as extremely winnable, yet people would rather be edgy and wallow in misery than realize we've got a shot to win a few more games.
I don't think it's people being edgy, they've just given up on the season because we lost to San Jose State. It's one of the worst losses in the history of the program, and Chad is the worst coach we've ever had. Hard to blame people for being miserable.
We have a dead program and a lame duck head coach, and recruits are noticing. A win against Kentucky won't change that. That's not being "edgy," it's just being realistic.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:26 pm to Drewbie
I don't think anyone here would call MSU or Kentucky worldbeaters or anything. But you keep saying we can beat them and I don't see you making any convincing argument that we can. Even the flashes shown by the offense have been against pretty pathetic defenses. The team's done nothing this year that makes me believe we can win an SEC game. The loss to SJSU could possibly be the worst in program history. That just happened a few weeks ago.. with PickSix Nick playing..
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:26 pm to Drewbie
I’ll say this, if we don’t beat Kentucky with them possibly starting a WR at QB, even on the road, then I don’t see how Morris ever wins an SEC game here. They are as down on their team right now as we are.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:28 pm to Stonehog
quote:Don't disagree at all on any front, but throwing the rest of the season under the bus because of what happened in week 4 is just weak to me. Especially considering we're only a few years removed from our program being in this exact position and then shutting out back to back ranked conference opponents. Development happens. Players improve. There are over 50 freshmen on this roster and some of them are legit talents, it's common sense we'd get better over the course of the year. Hell, we haven't even had our starting QB play an entire conference game yet. To give up to the point of saying we have no shot against a team with a QB with more INTs than TDs is just pathetic.
they've just given up on the season because we lost to San Jose State. It's one of the worst losses in the history of the program, and Chad is the worst coach we've ever had. Hard to blame people for being miserable.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:48 pm to Drewbie
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it's common sense we'd get better over the course of the year.
Guess what. This effect happens to other teams too. They have freshman too. And actually competent coaches helping them develop!!
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:49 pm to City Ham
Still waiting.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:53 pm to Drewbie
Here is what I'll offer in defense of my case, which is that we suck and this season is over:
4–13
0–10
31-24
Savior QB: 7 TD 7 int
4–13
0–10
31-24
Savior QB: 7 TD 7 int
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:55 pm to City Ham
quote:Which is better than the opposing QB.
Savior QB: 7 TD 7 int
quote:How original. And how do these correlate to our matchup with Kentucky on Saturday? How do you feel about our personnel against theirs? The weakness in their run D seems like a good opportunity to use Boyd, who will have the most rushing yards of anyone coming into this game, wouldn't you agree? Would really open up the passing game. Play action could be effective as well.
4–13
0–10
31-24
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:59 pm to Drewbie
This is the last time:
SJSU is worse than KY. They beat us. You do the math from there
I won't be watching. If we win, who gives a shite. This season will forever be the year we lost to SJSU at home.
SJSU is worse than KY. They beat us. You do the math from there
I won't be watching. If we win, who gives a shite. This season will forever be the year we lost to SJSU at home.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:00 pm to City Ham
quote:SJSU beat us worse than Texas A&M with our backup in.
SJSU is worse than KY. They beat us. You do the math from there
SJSU>A&M
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:01 pm to City Ham
quote:Shocker.
I won't be watching.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:53 am to City Ham
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SJSU is worse than KY. They beat us.
this is ranter logic if I've ever seen it.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:43 am to oklahogjr
We certainly have a chance to beat both KY and MSU. Will we? Remains to be seen. But we are good enough to pull both those out if we avoid turnovers and penalties.
Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:17 am to Drewbie
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SJSU beat us worse than Texas A&M with our backup in.
SJSU>A&M
This will be good sail material if we actually beat a sec team.
If we luck out, and come out strong after a bye week and beat Kentucky better than Florida then we can transitive property troll Florida, and transition that into Auburn sail material going into that game. Also if Florida beats lsu.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 7:18 am
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