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re: Update on the Gus Bus from Footballscoop
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:07 pm to Drewbie
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:07 pm to Drewbie
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Sure, Dale. You go ahead and hire that 5 loss coordinator. You and Rev can be the cheer section for that team. I'll be over here with the people that aren't holding grudges like 16 year old high school girls.
I presented fact, you respond with this?
So you can't argue the fact the offense was better the following year. The 5 losses didn't occur from a lack of offensive production like the 3 losses the year before, the defense took a huge step back in 07 after losing players to the draft and graduation.
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If it were anyone other than Gus our entire fanbase would be losing their shite that we could reel in a coach that's been to two national title games since we've even sniffed the SEC championship.
Les Miles, Mack Brown, Jim Tressell, Gene Chizik, Larry Coker.
All available, all meet the above criteria. I do not believe a tinker tape parade would be thrown for hiring any of the above.
All the data does not point to Gus being an offensive genius or an elite caliber coach. The intangibles show him looking for more pay at a job with less demand and more job security.
I like the thought that if Auburn wins this Saturday then Arkansas would have to wait until after the SEC-CG and NC Playoff.
Let me ask you this, why must Arkansas wait? We have a history of not waiting.
2 HCs have quit the NFL mid-season to come here.
The last HC quit before coaching in a BCS bowl to come here.
Arkansas isn't a job that waits on you, to think Arkansas must wait on Gus is the true poor lil Arkansas mentality many preach.
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:16 pm to DaleDenton
Also to anyone who wants to pretend prying him away from Auburn would be a feat because of the "great" team he has for next year.
Mike Anderson left behind a 30 win team to take over a shite show worse than the JLS debacle ever thought of being.
Bryant said some shite about "when mama calls" when he left aggy for Bama.
You are either a Razorback or you are not.
Mike Anderson left behind a 30 win team to take over a shite show worse than the JLS debacle ever thought of being.
Bryant said some shite about "when mama calls" when he left aggy for Bama.
You are either a Razorback or you are not.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:19 pm to DaleDenton
quote:You mean the year after we had to pull a redshirt off a true frosh QB because of injuries? We had 3 different starting QB's that year and still won the West. 07 we still had McFadden, Jones, Hillis, etc. all a year older. I should certainly fricking hope no one could frick up that bad.
So you can't argue the fact the offense was better the following year
quote:Yeah Gus has lucked into all of this success at two different SEC schools. He obviously got carried by the mastermind Gene Chizik and his defense is the only reason they won the UGA game, right?
All the data does not point to Gus being an offensive genius or an elite caliber coach.
Blind hatred looks better on you when you're bitching about DVH.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:20 pm to Drewbie
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I just threw your name in there because you're basically the poster-boy for the anti-gus crowd on this board now.
Wow, I guess I should feel honored.
At my weight and age, just making the small credits at the bottom matter. Now I am a poster-boy. Just mess'n with ya man. I really don't care.
Nope, don't like GM... But as I said, I support my Hogs. And will most likely not give up my tickets if he is hired. I considered it, but my wife reminded me what we went through to get those great seats. WPS!
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:23 pm to Drewbie
I don't think it does any good to be arguing about this stuff because Gus won't be our coach.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:24 pm to BoarEd
quote:He's not even my first choice. I just think the people acting like hiring Gus is like re-hiring Nutt have lost their minds. There are MANY names that would be worse than Gus Malzhan.
I don't think it does any good to be arguing about this stuff because Gus won't be our coach.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:28 pm to Feral
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It’s not a stretch to say it’s not unreasonable for him —or any coach for that matter — to want to get away from somewhere where you’re impossibly measured against the premier program and coach in college football.
He would not be getting away from the premier program though.
I mean, say these guys are right and Gus came here and won games at an ever increasing rate. Well, the expectations will only go up as well. So as long as he is in the same division, he will still be held to the same standard.
If he won 8 games 2 years in a row, people will start to want 9. And then 10. And then a title. And so on and so forth.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:30 pm to Drewbie
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He's not even my first choice. I just think the people acting like hiring Gus is like re-hiring Nutt have lost their minds.
It is the re-hiring of Nutt.
We could actually re-hire Nutt for half the cost and achieve the same end result.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:31 pm to Drewbie
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There are MANY names that would be worse than Gus Malzhan.
Eh. Man, he burned a lot of bridges on his way out of town.
I was told today he, "wasn't worth a frickin penny", by someone who makes this stuff their business.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:33 pm to BoarEd
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He would not be getting away from the premier program though.
I mean, say these guys are right and Gus came here and won games at an ever increasing rate. Well, the expectations will only go up as well. So as long as he is in the same division, he will still be held to the same standard.
If he won 8 games 2 years in a row, people will start to want 9. And then 10. And then a title. And so on and so forth.
He doesn't have to face the pressure on a day in and out manner like he does currently.
I remember many being fine with the same thought process Petrino conveyed to his team, we are not going to beat Bama, lets try to keep it close.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:41 pm to DaleDenton
Yeah, I mean, I totally get what you're saying. I just think that people would have eventually got tired of Petrino losing to Saban too, if that's the only dude he lost to. Fans don't enjoy watching the program plateau without reaching the top.
Case in point is Georgia. Fired a 10 win per year coach because he couldn't get them over the hump.
I think it would happen here too.
Case in point is Georgia. Fired a 10 win per year coach because he couldn't get them over the hump.
I think it would happen here too.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:53 pm to BoarEd
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I think it would happen here too.
It has happened.
7-8 wins/year with Nutt.
But, he made it a decade, so if you are Gus, you're 10 years from reaching the average retirement age. 6 x 10 = frick you money for retirement.
I have no doubt he could make it a decade as everyone is all giddy about his 8-5 average finish with top 5 talent, when that average drops it will be apologized towards him for being only Arkansas and everyone should be thankful we have him because he's the best we can do. Another HC has made a career of this on the hill.
Ole Miss, surprisingly, has a shorter leash on mediocrity. This being a program that is listed in the dictionary under the word mediocrity.
Although to be fair, the were ecstatic over Freeze's mediocre results because he beat Bama. I would have been pissed he couldn't beat Bert, but that's just an outsiders viewpoint.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:03 am to DaleDenton
This is true.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:06 am to DaleDenton
I respect your tenacity, but at the end of the day. 45 wins in 5 years, average 9-3, if you want to pass on that, that's fine.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:15 am to Woopigsooie20
Bert averaged close to 10 wins a season before coming here.
68/7 = 9.714
Bert didn't average top 5 recruiting classes, either.
So by hiring Gus we immediately downgrade, thanks for proving my point.
68/7 = 9.714
Bert didn't average top 5 recruiting classes, either.
So by hiring Gus we immediately downgrade, thanks for proving my point.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 12:16 am
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:57 am to DaleDenton
quote:In the B1G. Gus has done it in the SEC. Big difference.
Bert averaged close to 10 wins a season before coming here.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 1:27 am to Drewbie
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In the B1G. Gus has done it in the SEC. Big difference.
Yeah, that was a terrible retort by Dale. He's also done it with one of the greatest dynasties in CFB history in the same state.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:22 am to Drewbie
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In the B1G. Gus has done it in the SEC. Big difference.
At Auburn not Arkansas
Big difference in talent and recruiting
Posted on 11/23/17 at 3:45 am to ArHog
quote:The one year he was here we won 10 games...
At Auburn not Arkansas
Do any of you even think before you post? Like seriously I don't even have to look any of this shite up.
This post was edited on 11/23/17 at 3:46 am
Posted on 11/23/17 at 4:03 am to Drewbie
Oh boy
Huge sample size
1 frickING YEAR
Huge sample size
1 frickING YEAR
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