re: Sonny dykes and Brian Kelly each won their division year one at their schools

this reply isn't just to you.

1. If TCU had to plays LSU, Bama, Auburn (most years), Florida, both Mississippi schools, they would be beat the frick up and lose 2-3 more. Awww.. yep, I said it.

2. Yes, we have settled for a career Oline coach with big tits. Who took us from the laughing stock to ... respectable. LSU was not sure of a win whatsoever.

3. KJ has been hurt most of the season. If he played every game like he did against BYU, we would be good to go. But the dude is hurt period.

4. Oline has regressed for sure, no excuses here perhaps other than injuries.. but whatever.

5. Briles is a good coach, not great, but good. If the Oline held up in this last game, even with Hornsby and Fortin we win.

6. We speak of "Depth" for the Oline, Qback, etc. But what about Defense. Yes, we looked much better Saturday. Incredible transformation really, great coaching. Where was that earlier in the season? Injuries: you say??? awww, where is the recruited depth that is the Defensive coaches responsibility as well. ODOM??? DO you recruit man?

7. THis is definitely not the year to be trying to outbid for a coach with all the jobs going to be open. We will have Sam here at least another year.

how long did it take Iowa though man? Ferentz? Hmmm, KY even? and they look bad now...

Arkansas has NEVER had any stability since joining the SEC because they love hiring bad coaches.

Crowe
Ford
Bert
Chad

Then when they hired a decent coach and after the fifth year when it is obvious that coach can't get it done with teams full of talent. That coach gets a two year pass and wasted the most talented team since joining the SEC. Usually after the fifth year most schools make a change and Arkansas had a chance to do so but low expectations and no pride killed that possibility.


Nutt.


The only good coach Arkansas has had in the SEC is Petrino. Arkansas had a chance to get a good replacement because the job was much better then than now.


But stupid people make stupid decisions.

that we lack patience to achieve what Ferentz and Fry did at Iowa...

And Stoops as well...

Fry Was at Iowa 20 years...
5 seasons of 8/4
3 seasons of 9/3
3 seasons of 10 wins.. sometimes 10/1 others 10/2
1 seasons of 7/5
2 seasons of 6 wins...

14/20 bowl eligible.
His first three seasons 5/6, 4/7, 8/4

Ferentz has been at Iowa 24 years
4 seasons of 8 wins
2 seasons of 9 wins
4 seasons of 10 wins
2 seasons of 11 wins
1 season of 12 wins
4 seasons of 7 wins
4 seasons of 6 wins

21/24 seasons bowl eligible.

his first thee years, 1/10, 3/9, 7/5

Kentucky with Stoops 10 seasons
One season of 8/5
Two seasons of 10/3
Two seasons of 7/6
One season of 6/4

Six seasons of bowl eligible
First three seasons 2/10, 5/7, 5/7



Pittman??? Just comparing the patience of these schools someone mentioned earlier to Arkansas with specific coaches. Can/Will Pittman do it??? IDK, but firing a coach every 3-4 years isn't working and there is no magical answer... unless ya cheat.

But Sam was never a long term guy, and I don’t think he was ever intended to be a long term guy. He is in his early 60’s now. Can we honestly think he will be the coach in 5 to 8 years? I don’t think so.

Sam’s job was to get us out of the cellar, and bring us some semblance of pride of culture, stability, and respect, as fragile and tenuous as it may be. We still need him for that job for at least another year or two.

That doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to work harder than he ever has, make changes where needed, and recognize when things just aren’t working. I’d love to see this staff together another year, but Briles has to go out and get a portal QB who can make the throws, plus use his legs when needed. Hopefully he can teach him to slide.

Sam is 61

Saban, (No, Not comparing their coaching acumen) is 71

Just for thoughts....

dude, you mentioned age.. I responded in kind.

Some else mentioned Iowa and KY as a barometer.. I responded in kind.

I don't disagree with you in some ways.

There is a dude on 247 saying, "There are going to be major changes to the coaching staff following the season". IDK< but...

not my barometer bro... Just responding to another.

I personally do not see Stoops at KY as an indicator of possibilities at Arkansas.

KY is the Abyss, or was for years.

We are becoming such, if we aren't careful. Closer than I like to admit.

BUt, what happened at Iowa under two coaches was pretty phenom, for that area of the country

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dude, you mentioned age.. I responded in kind.

Some else mentioned Iowa and KY as a barometer.. I responded in kind.

I don't disagree with you in some ways.

There is a dude on 247 saying, "There are going to be major changes to the coaching staff following the season". IDK< but...

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I simply responded with my thoughts. I had already stated that I didn't think Sam was, or was ever intended to be, a long term guy. I'd be glad if he was, because if so, it will mean he has had some great success here.

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If Arkansas ever wants to be good in football then they need an attitude adjustment from the boosters to the fans. Need to stop making excuses because the more excuses you make then the more tolerable you will be of losing. When losing becomes more acceptable then poor decisions will continue to be made.

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Agree. But pretty sure anytime anyone brings this point up, we have a large contingent of complacent “fans” that seem to not give a shite about actual performance and take legitimate criticism of the program, coaches, and a culture of acceptance of mediocracy on a personal level and are then usually the first to melt when we shite the bed and lose a game of a few that we shouldn’t or just blow a golden opportunity(like we always do).