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Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:53 am
Since Sutton have we lost a coach we wanted to keep? What about before that?
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:10 am to FayetteNAM
Does Dana Altman count? I know the sentiment is frick that guy (and rightly so), but I also can't blame him for deciding to bail on the GOBN culture we had here. And I would have rather had him than the three coaches who immediately followed.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:13 am to VagueMessage
Thank John White for the Altman thing. Deal was done by Frank, they told Altman no on him bringing his Academic Team to fix the APR mess. Altman took one look behind the curtain and saw the nightmare and headed for the hills. 
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:15 am to VagueMessage
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Dana Altman
That’s really the only one I could think of, but I didn’t really take him serious since he never coached, so he hadn’t built up good will.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:57 am to Hogwarts
You can also blame John White for Jeff Long, and all those problems. It was also White that hire Stan Heath, and forced out Broyles. Broyles needed to retire, but was replaced by incompetence and self-serving replacement. The ultimate seed of all our athletics teams issues are John "I" White.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:17 am to BadPiggy
John White, the Nolan firing and the lawsuit really screwed over the hiring process. Frank wanted to hire Bill Self but White wanted a PC hire in Stan Heath because Arkansas was dealing with a public relations nightmare in how Nolan left Arkansas. But still Heath had only one year of head coaching experience and we had more qualified candidates that were more deserving of this job. We took the big risk and it failed.
Long didn't help but he was more damaging to football than anything else.
Long didn't help but he was more damaging to football than anything else.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 12:23 pm to FayetteNAM
Altman doesn't count, so I would say no. I remember being shocked when Sutton left, because I thought he'd retire at Arkansas.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 1:50 pm to redeye
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I remember being shocked when Sutton left, because I thought he'd retire at Arkansas.
I wasn’t born, but I knew he left without getting fired.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 2:50 pm to FayetteNAM
I didn't know about his drinking problem. But I did see him a couple of times, 1-2 years before he left, and he did not look good.
Maybe I'm niave, but I thought everyone expected him to retire at Arkansas. Imagine if Broyles had left for Notre Dame and that's how I felt.
Maybe I'm niave, but I thought everyone expected him to retire at Arkansas. Imagine if Broyles had left for Notre Dame and that's how I felt.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 5:26 pm to dchog
This isn't true, I'm not a Mike Irwin fan, but even he knows the true story and has posted it on line and talked about it in interviews.
The story you have is the myth passed around to explain why Arkansas couldn't lure Self from Illinois. The condensed truth is that Arkansas was in negotiations with Self made offers which were countered by Illinois each time with the total climbing towards that of the salary of Houston Nutt at the time. Frank was not going to pay more for a basketball coach than a football coach and his final offer was matched by Illinois and Self chose to stay at illinois vs coming to Arkansas for the same money.
This same scenario played itself out again in replacing Heath.
Yes White meddled, yes he took control of the basketball hire during the masters, but Frank was never going to pay for a top coach in basketball.
Yurachek has done a good job and hiring at a reasonable rate bit overpaying, this is his first opportunity to show what results will do for the salary which should get the football staff in gear or attract those who will in the future.
The story you have is the myth passed around to explain why Arkansas couldn't lure Self from Illinois. The condensed truth is that Arkansas was in negotiations with Self made offers which were countered by Illinois each time with the total climbing towards that of the salary of Houston Nutt at the time. Frank was not going to pay more for a basketball coach than a football coach and his final offer was matched by Illinois and Self chose to stay at illinois vs coming to Arkansas for the same money.
This same scenario played itself out again in replacing Heath.
Yes White meddled, yes he took control of the basketball hire during the masters, but Frank was never going to pay for a top coach in basketball.
Yurachek has done a good job and hiring at a reasonable rate bit overpaying, this is his first opportunity to show what results will do for the salary which should get the football staff in gear or attract those who will in the future.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:24 am to FayetteNAM
I think the fans wanted to keep Sutton, and Hatfield for that matter, but working for Broyles had become so toxic both couldn't wait to get away from Arkansas, even though they loved the school.
You can drive a coach off without firing them and that is what we did in those two cases.
I could see Muss leaving for the NBA or, sometime down the line, taking a West Coast job as his final stop before calling it a career. Otherwise someone is going to have to spend redonkulous amounts of money to chisel him out of here.
You can drive a coach off without firing them and that is what we did in those two cases.
I could see Muss leaving for the NBA or, sometime down the line, taking a West Coast job as his final stop before calling it a career. Otherwise someone is going to have to spend redonkulous amounts of money to chisel him out of here.
Posted on 4/15/21 at 11:17 am to Arksulli
If Hatfield stayed then I think he would eventually get fired. I think the offensive woes and the tougher competition would be his undoing. He is a good coach but he would need to make changes and prepare for the SEC.
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