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re: Rumor: Check Yo Sauces..Morris calling plays in Oxford?

Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:10 am to
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:10 am to
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Did chad call plays at Smu or was it craddock?


Morris in year 1 and Craddock in years 2 and 3. Personally, I thought their offense looked more fluid and dynamic the first year than it did the last two.
Posted by City Ham
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2018
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:42 am to
Who gives a shite?

No one on staff is any better than a college kid playing xbox
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:16 am to
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We need to get away from this false equivalency bullshite. You can question the administration's decision to hire a guy with CCM's record while still wishing him success and the best of luck.


Likewise you can support a coach and be patient without being a sunshine pumper.
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:18 am to
I'm giving Morris 3 years to sort out the O-Line issues and let the freshmen he recruited develop. By the end of next year we'll have a much better picture here. But the lack of improvement of the O-Line at this point is my main concern.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:33 am to
3 years is fair, 4 is ideal imo. As I said I support as long as the win totals increase, once they dip (significantly, not just 1-2 games) then I get concerned. Bert lost me after the back to back blown leads to end the 16 season. He dropped from 8 to 7 wins and I could’ve lived with that but not to end the season like we did. That was his 4th year, more than fair.


This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 11:36 am
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:42 pm to
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I didn't hold 2018 against Morris -- I'd venture a guess that even the most negative Nancy knew last year was a write off before the first snap.


Eh you say that but there are some that want to put most of the blame from last year on him. We had long threads after last season in which posters when back and forth on how much blame Morris deserved for last year. For the record, I think assigning no blame to him for last year is ignorant as well as assigning all of/most of the blame.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:21 pm to
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Eh you say that but there are some that want to put most of the blame from last year on him. We had long threads after last season in which posters when back and forth on how much blame Morris deserved for last year. For the record, I think assigning no blame to him for last year is ignorant as well as assigning all of/most of the blame.


Don't disagree.

Just as Morris didn't recruit his roster last year, Bert wasn't the one who didn't have the stones to go for it with Cole Kelly on 4th and inches against a Mountain West team.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
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Bert wasn't the one who didn't have the stones to go for it with Cole Kelly on 4th and inches against a Mountain West team.


And that was always my biggest compliant against Morris last year. IMO you can put most of that loss on bad play calling in the 2nd half.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
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But the lack of improvement of the O-Line at this point is my main concern.

that oline is night and day better from where we were with Bert's last year
Posted by ThundrHawg
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:13 pm to
I guess I dont understand how observing current conditions and using that information to make an educated guess about what will happen next based on past experiences makes you a "negative" anything.

If I go outside and see dark clouds on the horizon and the wind is picking up and declare "its going to rain", no one calls me a negaweather or some other childish bullshite.

Unless any of you people started following college football yesterday or are related to Chad Morris I really cant understand how you can see this going anywhere but downhill.

I havent seen anything at all from CCM to make me believe it's going to do anything other than rain.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:19 pm to
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I'm giving Morris 3 years to sort out the O-Line issues and let the freshmen he recruited develop.


I agree. I expect us to field a team next year that wins. I don't expect 10 wins and titles, but 6 wins should be reasonable. By year 4, though, I expect to be a pretty good team. If not, then Chad won't make it through his 5th season.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 3:51 pm to
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I guess I dont understand how observing current conditions and using that information to make an educated guess about what will happen next based on past experiences makes you a "negative" anything.


I don't have any issues with someone believing this hire will turn out bad. I believed it when when it was first being reported.

The issue I have is when you have some fans only taking certain parts of the context to fit their already assumed projection because it helps their arguments online. That works both ways. I don't like when people act like Chad couldn't have done better in the first year either.

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Unless any of you people started following college football yesterday or are related to Chad Morris I really cant understand how you can see this going anywhere but downhill.

I havent seen anything at all from CCM to make me believe it's going to do anything other than rain.


Are you saying that you have seen nothing positive from this group? Not one thing? I understand if you are saying it has been overwhelmingly negative but not sure how you can't take positives away from certain aspects.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:12 pm to
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3 years is fair, 4 is ideal imo. As I said I support as long as the win totals increase, once they dip (significantly, not just 1-2 games) then I get concerned. Bert lost me after the back to back blown leads to end the 16 season. He dropped from 8 to 7 wins and I could’ve lived with that but not to end the season like we did. That was his 4th year, more than fair.


One thing to consider is the schedule is only getting more difficult from this year forward.

Colorado State (who was blown out by Colorado Saturday) drops off with a P5 opponent replacing them and he will have a more legit East opponent rotating on with his first 3 facing the bottom three of the east (Vandy, Kentucky, and Tennessee).

And that may be what is most frustrating, a three year span with a 8+ win schedule (4 weak non-con, Ms Schools, Mizzou, Vandy/Kentucky/Tenn) has been started with the worst season in school history...
Posted by ThundrHawg
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Are you saying that you have seen nothing positive from this group? Not one thing?


His recruiting so far isnt horrible. He seems to actually give a shite. Is this the bar now? The biggest thing for me is his game day coaching has appeared incompetent and has every appearance of someone completely in over their head. Even with good talent, ability to run a program, recruit, etc, if you cant actually coach the game on Saturdays you cant be successful.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 8:52 am to
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His recruiting so far isnt horrible. He seems to actually give a shite. Is this the bar now?


No, that isn't the bar. No one is acting like it is so not sure why it even needs to be said. We can admit things that are positive about a coach without saying he is setting the bar but somehow pulling out one of our best classes on paper after a 2 win season seems a little bit better than "isn't horrible".

Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25220 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:15 am to
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For the record, I think assigning no blame to him for last year is ignorant as well as assigning all of/most of the blame.


I believe most of us would agree with you.

He did not inherit the '85 Chicago Bears but Morris should have won more then 2 games last year. There was some questionable play calling at best combined with the usual dose of Arkansas bad luck and we didn't do nearly as well as we should have. On the other hand we were lacking in not only talent but gumption last year. The team gave up early and often.

Put me in the not quite gruntled community. I'm not disgruntled, but I am certainly not gruntled either. I will give him this year and, unless we completely tank the rest of the season, next year. But I expect results sooner rather then later.

As long as we see progress I think most of us can live with Chad's quirks.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:25 am to
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I believe most of us would agree with you.


I think most fit in that range, there are just a few extreme posters on both sides. I know some post on here after a bad showing and are venting a little as well. Don't blame them for that.

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Put me in the not quite gruntled community. I'm not disgruntled, but I am certainly not gruntled either. I will give him this year and, unless we completely tank the rest of the season, next year. But I expect results sooner rather then later.

As long as we see progress I think most of us can live with Chad's quirks.


This upcoming Ole Miss game was always going to be telling for me. At the very least I need to see the offense show up. That doesn't mean we have to score a ton of points but at least show we are capable of being a big threat. For me, even a close loss would buy him some more time but if we go out there and look a lost in a multiple possession loss, it will take awhile for Chad to get me back on his side.
Posted by ArCoRazorback
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 9:30 am to
Already happened in my dream. Ole Miss score 28 right out of the gate. Comeback fell short at 24.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 10:33 am to
I don't think that winning one extra game last season would have made much difference in the grand scheme of things. I mean, we avoid the worst year in the history of the program, but we were several games short of a bowl.

I guess that maybe people can take some bad clock management or some bad playcalling as a sign that the guy will be a failure here in the end, but man that sure seems short sighted. I hope those folks don't just give up on everything in their lives so quickly.
Posted by ArCoRazorback
Member since Jun 2012
803 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:27 pm to
This thread really got derailed.
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