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Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:15 pm to Ole Geauxt
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:15 pm to Ole Geauxt
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I got whupped!!
Yes, you did. ...
One
= a spanking three
= an arse whipping
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:15 pm to Razorback Reverend
The smiley middle finger is the same as a Lol-face.
I can tell your religious beliefs are important to you. I don't dislike you for that.
I don't mind having a counselor who is a Christian. I have actually had a "faith-based" counselor before and I just didn't find it as effective as others. That's it. I'm just relaying my personal experience. I have found other "faith-neutral" counseling to be much more helpful. That's my personal experience, and I will recommend to others based on my own experience. That's all I can do, afterall.
There are wildly varying interpretations of the extremely large book that is the Bible.
Much of what I have learned in counseling or various therapies is not all that different from the core tenets of the Bible. Its just that none of it is wrapped in parable or the context of the history of a tribe of Middle Easterners. I am not comfortable with someone I am asking to apply the science of emotions and behavior immediately invoking a Higher Power, his/her interpretation of which I may disagree with.
Like I said, you can get chemotherapy and be cured of cancer. And you can do that without praying. And you can also choose to interpret that healing through your religious faith.
The same is true with psychotherapy and counseling. You can filter it through your personal faith or mystical beliefs however you see fit. I don't see the need to base it on a religious tradition. I find it limiting. And I also find it unnecessary. That's it. No anger here.
I can tell your religious beliefs are important to you. I don't dislike you for that.
I don't mind having a counselor who is a Christian. I have actually had a "faith-based" counselor before and I just didn't find it as effective as others. That's it. I'm just relaying my personal experience. I have found other "faith-neutral" counseling to be much more helpful. That's my personal experience, and I will recommend to others based on my own experience. That's all I can do, afterall.
There are wildly varying interpretations of the extremely large book that is the Bible.
Much of what I have learned in counseling or various therapies is not all that different from the core tenets of the Bible. Its just that none of it is wrapped in parable or the context of the history of a tribe of Middle Easterners. I am not comfortable with someone I am asking to apply the science of emotions and behavior immediately invoking a Higher Power, his/her interpretation of which I may disagree with.
Like I said, you can get chemotherapy and be cured of cancer. And you can do that without praying. And you can also choose to interpret that healing through your religious faith.
The same is true with psychotherapy and counseling. You can filter it through your personal faith or mystical beliefs however you see fit. I don't see the need to base it on a religious tradition. I find it limiting. And I also find it unnecessary. That's it. No anger here.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:19 pm to wmr
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The same is true with psychotherapy and counseling. You can filter it through your personal faith or mystical beliefs however you see fit. I don't see the need to base it on a religious tradition. I find it limiting. And I also find it unnecessary. That's it. No anger here.
I am glad, I find you to be a very intelligent, Probably young man? and have no desire to offend. One thing I have learned through life, If I am a Believer, I will never gain another person's belief by belittling, attempting to dominate, or showing arrogance.
I attempt to do so with meekness and respect. I don't always succeed
and I do not act like a believer at times, the humanity of me shows way too often. Especially when it comes to Barners.. Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:22 pm to Razorback Reverend
Its cool. I'm not that young. Young-ish. One thing I have learned is that I will never agree with anyone about everything. Its ok with me.
Rigorous debate puts hair on your chest.
Rigorous debate puts hair on your chest.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:23 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I find you to be a very intelligent, Probably young man?
Now you're just straight up kissing arse.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:25 pm to Pigfeet
Hey, hey, hey....let the man speak.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:25 pm to Pigfeet
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:25 pm to Arkla Missy
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Ooh! I love tailgate parties! Be sure to bring your MTB cassette.
Never leaves the glove box
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I think I know why OG wanted to meet at that furniture store in Strong
will need clarification on this
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:31 pm to Razorback Reverend
You're a pastor of some sort? I don't attend a church at all. I have in the past at various times.
How do you feel about people seeking your guidance in a counseling setting? To me it would feel like I was taking advantage of a service that may or may not be part of your "job description'. I say that because I could see seeking advice from someone within my specific faith tradition or someone who I considered to be 'right' as far as a faith. But I also would feel like it was cheap and lacking in effort on my part.
That's my gut feeling, not being smarmy, not taking a jab. I have a cousin who is a pastor and it just seems like it would be exhausting, and that people lean too much and fail to take responsibility for themselves because they can take for granted a "man of God" who they can rely on to "re-parent" them.
If I am paying for therapy, I am motivated to make progress. If I am paying for therapy, I don't want any doubt as to whether this person holds beliefs that I'm not comfortable with. That is a part of why I prefer faith-neutrality.
A great counselor I once saw asked me right up front (he was Catholic) "Do you wish to take a religious approach or would you prefer not?" THAT was awesome and trust-building. Lots of respect for that man to this day. Smart as a whip and got me back on track during some difficult times.
How do you feel about people seeking your guidance in a counseling setting? To me it would feel like I was taking advantage of a service that may or may not be part of your "job description'. I say that because I could see seeking advice from someone within my specific faith tradition or someone who I considered to be 'right' as far as a faith. But I also would feel like it was cheap and lacking in effort on my part.
That's my gut feeling, not being smarmy, not taking a jab. I have a cousin who is a pastor and it just seems like it would be exhausting, and that people lean too much and fail to take responsibility for themselves because they can take for granted a "man of God" who they can rely on to "re-parent" them.
If I am paying for therapy, I am motivated to make progress. If I am paying for therapy, I don't want any doubt as to whether this person holds beliefs that I'm not comfortable with. That is a part of why I prefer faith-neutrality.
A great counselor I once saw asked me right up front (he was Catholic) "Do you wish to take a religious approach or would you prefer not?" THAT was awesome and trust-building. Lots of respect for that man to this day. Smart as a whip and got me back on track during some difficult times.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:33 pm to Pigfeet
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:40 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I am glad, I find you to be a very intelligent, Probably young man
He is intelligent, he reminds me of young Harry in Harry met Sally. I swear there's a convo in that movie that pretty much is dead on what he's said in here.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:29 pm to Arkla Missy
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quote: I got whupped!!
Yes, you did. ...
One
three
4 would be,, hurt me so gooood..
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:31 pm to Ole Geauxt
This lady was in front of me not even 15 minutes ago and I thought it would add a little humor to the thread..
You gotta love the iPhone zoom.
You gotta love the iPhone zoom.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:39 pm to SunHog
what kind of Ford is that, an Exploder?
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:43 pm to Ole Geauxt
I thought they stopped making those?.. It looked newish for sure.
Well, look at that..
LINK /
..they do still make them.
Well, look at that..
LINK /
..they do still make them.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:46 pm to SunHog
I wasn't sure what it was, but the plate is ironic if in fact it is an Explorer/Exploder.., I remember calling those things "Exploders" when they were,, uh,,, uh,, exploding!!
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:48 pm to Ole Geauxt
I've always called it an exploder as well.
She might be exploring while on the way to exploding his pocketbook for all that love.
She might be exploring while on the way to exploding his pocketbook for all that love.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:49 pm to Ole Geauxt
Hopefully, they've fixed that problem, else her hubs might have another reason for getting it for her besides "loving" her.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:50 pm to Arkla Missy
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Hopefully, they've fixed that problem, else her hubs might have another reason for getting it for her besides "loving" her.
Solid flip side of the coin.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:52 pm to wmr
quote:I am glad it worked for you. Different things work for different folks. I have had folks search me out on FB, Message Boards, and phone for help. I have been helped by a counselor before as well. Often times folks who have never seen the need for counseling, attempt to occupy the career... Horrible!
You're a pastor of some sort? (No, I don't use that word, but I do minister and counsel) I don't attend a church at all. I have in the past at various times. How do you feel about people seeking your guidance in a counseling setting? To me it would feel like I was taking advantage of a service that may or may not be part of your "job description'. ( I have no problem listening, aiding, and helping with situations. When something is over my head, I refer to a specialist in that field of difficultly, ie: Addiction, etc) I say that because I could see seeking advice from someone within my specific faith tradition or someone who I considered to be 'right' as far as a faith. But I also would feel like it was cheap and lacking in effort on my part. That's my gut feeling, not being smarmy, not taking a jab. I have a cousin who is a pastor and it just seems like it would be exhausting, and that people lean too much and fail to take responsibility for themselves because they can take for granted a "man of God" who they can rely on to "re-parent" them. ( SO many people can't afford to seek professional counseling, unless it is too late ie: Prison, etc>) If I am paying for therapy, I am motivated to make progress. If I am paying for therapy, I don't want any doubt as to whether this person holds beliefs that I'm not comfortable with. (We all have beliefs another is not usually comfortable with, share this in advance of making a decision for counseling, I do) That is a part of why I prefer faith-neutrality. (There is no such thing, I am not attempting to be arrogant here, but everyone has some type of faith that is never neutral, in self, training, religion, psychology, etc) A great counselor I once saw asked me right up front (he was Catholic) "Do you wish to take a religious approach or would you prefer not?" (I often do the same, however religion doesn't have to be selective in an approach.) THAT was awesome and trust-building. Lots of respect for that man to this day. Smart as a whip and got me back on track during some difficult times.
I tried to answer each thing after you said it, kind of sloppy, sorry! WPS!
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