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re: OFFICIAL 2021 ARKANSAS RAZORBACK BASEBALL SEASON THREAD

Posted on 6/13/21 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 8:58 pm to
We can argue over pitching decisions or this or that..Bottom line is this team lost because Goodheart, Franklin, Moore, Smith, Slavens, and Wallace had very rough series at the plate.

We had a chance to stomp on their neck in 2 of the first 4 innings today and only plated one run. Their starter was on the fence early with the bases loaded and Baum was getting to him and we let him off the hook.

It’s a completely different outcome if we run him in that inning.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:10 pm to
If you score enough runs it takes any important decision out of the coach's hands. I agree that the offense is ultimately at fault, but with better pitching management we could have still won, especially yesterday.

I wish DVH hadn't totally abandoned his old small ball mentality. After Wallace walked in the fifth I understand not bunting Slavens but if you don't, then Wallace has to be looking to steal a bag.

The pitcher was slow to home and the catcher went down to one knee just about every pitch
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Tatar82
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:26 pm to
I’ll just say this. I’m proud of the team for a remarkable season. Winning the SEC and SEC tournament is no small feat when you are going up against Vanderbilt and Tennessee. Had a few injuries occur, batting slumps, & and a few guys NC pitched that our guys had trouble with contacting well (tight spin on the ball maybe?). DVH just needs to keep recruiting top 10 class and eventually luck will pull our way.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:28 pm to
Exactly, just look a the red Sox or cubs, just stay the course and eventually luck will change.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:32 pm to
So what's next season look like based on what we know right now?

Goodheart gone
Wallace back
Slavens gone?
Franklin gone
Moore back
Opitz gone, Leach starts?
Smith gone
Welch DH or?
Battles gone?
Nesbit gone
Webb gone
Gregory?
Bates starter?

Wick gone
Kopps gone
Lockhart gone
Pallette out until 2023
Vermillion gone?
Noland gone even if it's by xfer
Costeiu?
Bolden?
Wiggins starter
Tole starter or key reliever
Monke?
Ramage gone
Trest figures shite out quick or he's gone?
What happened to Burton?
Morris starter next year?
This post was edited on 6/13/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:33 pm to
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Exactly, just look a the red Sox or cubs, just stay the course and eventually luck will change.



When is the last time the football/basketball teams won the sec/ sec Tourney.

Dude, I know you are having a great time with the continual bloviating but it is a bit shallow to be honest.

We suck in Football, but perhaps getting a bit .. little bit better.

Basketball is turning a major corner, but hasn't really proven a heckuva lot as of yet. One Elite 8 loss... That's it.. We will continue to improve here I believe.

So why such antagonistic posts. Do you just love stirring emotions when they are raw? Get your jollys that way? Whelp Congrats it has worked by the above posts..
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43501 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:34 pm to
SEC doesn't matter it's all about the tourney and Omaha, said everyone here ever.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:36 pm to
I felt that DVH was in dire straits with this pitching staff and starting Kopps screamed desperation. I think if the pitching actually improved then Kopps wouldn't have been used as much. It didn't improve and here we are.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:40 pm to
He wasn't... Lockhart wasn't great yesterday but could have easily gone 4 or 5

Starting Kopps today was desperate and proved to be the right move until he didn't go to the other main guy that he could trust even though he was ready and available
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12675 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Goodheart gone
Wallace back
Slavens gone?
Franklin gone
Moore back
Opitz gone, Leach starts?
Smith gone
Welch DH or?
Battles gone?
Nesbit gone
Webb gone
Gregory?
Bates starter?



Next season looks to be rough unless DVH pulls a horseshoe out of his arse in recruiting/JUCO. We lose a lot in the field and our pitching staff is a mess.

The coaches will definitely have their work cut out for them.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24002 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:52 pm to
Yep... Just a ray of sunshine for next season.

Hopefully DVH can hit the portal and change this
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 6/13/21 at 9:56 pm to
Keep in mind that I believe our 2020 recruiting class was top 5 in the nation... Some more of those guys should be rdy to contribute
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 5:30 am to
I think Smith, Goodheart, and Slavens return(they’re not listed on draft boards)with Moore and Wallace. Leach will be behind the dish and Welch will DH. Bates and Gregory should be back.

Wiggins, Pallette(if healed), Tole, Noland, Morris, Starks(excited about him) likely return. Bolden, Monke depends on draft or asked to leave?

Probably hit the portal again hard.

Recruiting class is one of the best in nation again. Will have to see how hard the draft hits it. Braylon Bishop is the star of the class and likely doesn’t make it to campus. Hagen Smith is a lefty who is highly rated that may actually make it to campus. He had TJ a year or so ago and came back strong, but MLB teams may lay low on him right now.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:50 am to
Is Bishop still projected as a top round kid
This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 6:55 am
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12675 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 6:56 am to
quote:

Is Bishop still projected as a top round kid


Doubt he ever hits campus, honestly.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:00 am to
quote:

Bishop still projected as a top round kid

100%

Will need lots of luck and higher power intervention for him to see campus.
Posted by STLhog
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 7:48 am to
This one really hurts. Don’t buy people saying we couldn’t have done it in Omaha with this staff. We did it all year and did it in the SECT.

This was another squandered chance and we absolutely blew it, losing back to back at home by a single run, leading both games to start.

I don’t know how to be positive. SEC and SECT feels meaningless at this point and hard to see us ever actually winning one.

Vandy, Florida and now UT are going to be on another level from us. 15, 18, 19 or this year, not getting it don’t any of those feels like we never will.
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/14/21 at 9:36 am to
quote:

I think Smith, Goodheart, and Slavens return(they’re not listed on draft boards)with Moore and Wallace. Leach will be behind the dish and Welch will DH. Bates and Gregory should be back.

Wiggins, Pallette(if healed), Tole, Noland, Morris, Starks(excited about him) likely return. Bolden, Monke depends on draft or asked to leave?


Yeah, I just took a guess on most of the guys. I'm not sure how many guys are legit seniors vs covid seniors and can play one extra season.

I still think Noland leaves regardless unless he's promised a prominent role next year.

Starks could easily be the closer next year.

Going to need some pitching to step up.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12675 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Don’t buy people saying we couldn’t have done it in Omaha with this staff. We did it all year and did it in the SECT.


As others have said, that was a testament to coaching, bats getting hot at the right time in close games, and some luck.

When you stop and think about it, it's nothing short of incredible that we won the SEC with basically 1 starter the coaches trusted and a shaky (at best) bullpen outside of Kopps. While showing flashes of brilliance at times, it was obvious the coaches didn't have a ton of confidence in Lockhart, Pallette, Wiggins, or others to get out of jams, which is why they started stretching Kopps as the season went along and basically forgoing middle relief altogether.

In terms of luck, I worried in the latter part of the season that it seemed like the ball kept bouncing our way when the chips were down, and that eventually we'd roll a snake eyes and shite just wouldn't go our way.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Member since Sep 2016
18162 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 12:28 pm to
Wiggins I think has a chance to be really really good before he leaves. He’s already got the gas if he can learn to spot anything off speed consistently he will be deadly
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