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Listen folks, this is going to take 5 years to get this turned around

Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:16 pm
We need your patience during this stretch.

WPS
Posted by JohnnyBob
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:35 pm to
Many of us lived through the 3-8 SWC 1990 team. I still believe this team would beat that one, barely. That team did beat Colo St tho.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:40 pm to
Serious question - why does literally every coaching change we ever have have to be a fricking disaster show ground-up rebuild?

Is it because we keep flip flopping between systems too much? Are coaches coasting and tanking the program?

I'm legitimately baffled at this point.
Posted by Arksulli
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:48 pm to
Well Houston Nutt had a great first year. Possibly because Danny Ford recruited extremely well.

And the hand offs from Broyles to Holtz to Hatfield all went fairly well. But all three ran some form of the triple option so...
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:54 pm to
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why does literally every coaching change we ever have have to be a fricking disaster show ground-up rebuild?
That question seems to answer itself if you just look at the shapes of the rosters every time we switch coaches.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:56 pm to
Should win all non conference games next year. Add the the 3 M schools and you got 7-5
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:57 pm to
Oh look it's Morris' version of Bielema's hawgfaninnc. We get it. He does no wrong.
Posted by JohnnyBob
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:58 pm to
Pre Petrino most transitions were smoother, Lou, Hatfield, HDN. Crowe in 90 was awful and these last three changes have been brutal.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Oh look it's Morris' version of Bielema's hawgfaninnc. We get it. He does no wrong.
Look it's the idiot that expects a 4 win team to improve under a system they weren't built for.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 3:16 pm to
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Look it's the idiot that expects a 4 win team to improve under a system they weren't built for.



With a group of soph and jrs that the 3* players are starting over the 4*s.

Im not ready to blame chad on anything but the CSU/NT losses. 100% because he put Cole in those games over ty (who isnt very good. Thanks bert) this last loss is on depth, and chavis not adjusting to the screen.
Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 3:52 pm to
Shitting the bed against CSU, getting thoroughly sodomized by UNT, Ole Miss, getting dominated by Vandy...You post against all detractors like we're expecting national titles or something. I can't lower expectations enough.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Serious question - why does literally every coaching change we ever have have to be a fricking disaster show ground-up rebuild?


Because we don't belong in this conference.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 4:58 pm to
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I can't lower expectations enough
Coming into this season my expectations were 5 wins would be an accomplishment. This is a QB reliant system without a good QB or receivers, a patchwork OL, and Chavis trying to work with the same personnel that just came off of one of the historically worst defensive performances in college football. This year was never going to be anything more than Morris just getting here and laying the groundwork. Following the recruiting so far, we could lose every game for the rest of this season and I'd still be extremely pleased with how things are going. If you aren't excited about the direction this team is headed, you aren't paying attention.
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 4:58 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:17 pm to
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Because we don't belong in this conference.


We belong in this conference as much as anyone. We are never going to be a perennial power in this conference, but there’s no reason we can’t challenge for the west every few years, maybe even have a 2 or 3 year run at it once a decade or so.

We are not an elite football program, and being in a division with Alabama, Auburn, Texas assTomouth and LSU, in a conference that includes Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee, makes it very difficult to consistently compete at a high level.

I would much rather be an equal partner in the SEC, fighting and scrapping every year to compete, rather than take the automatic big 4 or 6 status in the Texas 12, once again allowing Texass to take the lion’s share of conference largesse, and dictate to us how shite is going to go.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:31 pm to
I don't think 5. In a couple of seasons with the new recruits, we should start seeing fruit.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24064 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:38 pm to
Let me put this out there...

Recruiting has been incredible overall, still need some Good OL for sure.

But, what momentum we had with hanging more on Bama than anyone else, keeping it close with TAMU, almost beating Ole Miss.... Beating tulsa to a shut out. It is gone.

If Morris keeps the recruits on board, he has some amazing juju mojo stuff... or we are laying out the $$$

Because if I were a 4* recruit, with several options... watching what was another disgusting egg laying performance with a crowd that was non existent... no way, no how am I a HOG! We have fallen to the pitt of misery that I never thought I would see in my lifetime.

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14681 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:44 pm to
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If you aren't excited about the direction this team is headed, you aren't paying attention.


We have talent on defense. Granted, there have been game where the offense killed the defense, but the legitimate scheme excuse that applies to the offense doesn’t really fly for the defense. If Chavis was good our defense would be progressing. It’s not.

Offense isn’t either. Sure, maybe we don’t exactly have the personnel to do what Morris wants to do, but we are still lining up 5 in the backfield twice a game, nor can we call plays that disguises the fact that our oline can neither pass nor run block consistently.

I don’t think a good direction is obvious at all at this point, with the exception of recruiting.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:54 pm to
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there’s no reason we can’t challenge for the west every few years


There are actually lots of reasons why we don't. Our best year in the SEC we were third in the West. We will never compete in this conference, we've shown that over the past 25 years. We've had like three good seasons since joining.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:57 pm to
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We've had like three good seasons since joining.


We’ve only had one good coach in 25 years.
Posted by Pigfeet
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Posted on 10/27/18 at 5:59 pm to
CMFM is that guy
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