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Knowing what we do now about Chad's ability to evaluate talent

Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:01 pm
How many of those dozens of players who transferred or left the team the past two years were better than what we have now? Probably a lot. Conventional wisdom thought they were "just Bert players" and that we were getting rid of dead weight, but now I think Chad and his staff just suck at talent evaluation and they weren't giving these guys a chance.

The quarterback situation got me thinking about this. KJ is obviously the best quarterback on our roster and he's just now getting to play, even after all the terrible quarterback play we've had in the first 8 games. Makes you wonder how many of those linebackers and linemen that left could be helping us right now if Chad knew how to evaluate talent.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 8:17 pm to
I think there is a good possibility that many of the players who left, needed to do just that. I think Bielema’s style didn’t lend itself to recruiting the kind of players who give maximum effort at every opportunity. I think Morris probably expects, if not demands this, but probably goes about it in his very own shitty high school way.

I also think it quite possible that very few on the offensive side of the coaching staff have any kind of reference for SEC level talent, including the head coach. Think about it, don’t you think Morris probably believed that Hicks was going to take all that SMU experience and success, and just light up the SEC with Morris’ system?

It’s at least part of the reason Morris is bewildered, and completely at a loss right now. All the tricks, and plays, and offensive scheme (I’m being generous) that brought at least moderate success at SMU, is being shoved up his arse so far he can smell it. And he doesn’t have a clue how to make it stop.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:02 pm to
i think you hit the nail right on it's little head.

Very well said, dude is clueless and trying to understand why his system, his way of coaching isn't working. So far it is everyone's and everything's fault other than his very own. Surely... soon, he will see his silly look in the mirror and get a clue!
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 5:43 am to
Beliemas style didn’t lend itself to maximum effort?

Fair to say Chets style lends itself to zero effort at all?

Tired of the Bert players excuse, yea he left a bunch of shite but we’re clearly stuck with a ton of worse shite.

He still bested and doubled Chets win total in his worst two years with the West and league in general being much much stronger.

Chet hasn’t managed an SEC win with A&M, Ole Miss, Kentucky, MSU and Mizzou all in complete rebuild/disarray.

Disgustingly sad I even have to say above considering how shitty Bert was holistically.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 5:46 am
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:00 am to
They hired a coach with a losing record before they hired an AD.

This was all destined to fail from the start.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 6:42 am to
I can't think of any players that left that would have contributed much or made any impact this year.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

I can't think of any players that left that would have contributed much or made any impact this year.




Nance?

Althought no one to throw him the ball so yea, you're probably right.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:15 am to
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Beliemas style didn’t lend itself to maximum effort?


Nope, sure didn't. Do you think maximum effort when you look at Bret Bielema? Did you ever see him up someone's arse on the sideline, for not executing, or doing their job?

quote:

Fair to say Chets style lends itself to zero effort at all?


I don't think Morris has a style. I think everything goes the way he wants it to inside his head, so when it doesn't work that way in reality, against SEC caliber competition, he has no idea what to do about it.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Nope, sure didn't. Do you think maximum effort when you look at Bret Bielema? Did you ever see him up someone's arse on the sideline, for not executing, or doing their job?


He came closer to anyone at beating Bama and absolutely beat the brakes off Ole Miss, Texas, Mizzou and LSU.

He got lazy but his teams certainly put the beat down on a few solid teams during his time that would all absolutely butt rape us now.

Not really arguing with you but Chad is on a completely different spectrum of failure. He's re-written the modern book to be honest.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:31 am to
Nance would have used up his eligibility last year if he had stayed though
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:43 am to
Make you way to Razorback Stadium this weekend if you want to see the last time that Morris will ineptly try to coach the Razorbacks in Fayetteville.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17718 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:46 am to
You're right.

Point still stands, even if it was last year.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18054 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:47 am to
Tickets at 50 yard line for 15 bucks, someone is gonna overpay.
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
7854 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:49 am to
They should actually be paying people to attend lol
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Tickets at 50 yard line for 15 bucks, someone is gonna overpay.


They're paying $15 for people to sit on the 50? Too low IMO.


Edit -- dammit, PT beat me to it.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 10:12 am
Posted by Hogwarts
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:27 am to
Haha
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

I can't think of any players that left that would have contributed much or made any impact this year.


Losing 30+ players in one year definitely makes an impact. Especially when Chad's first class had like 14 guys and a bunch of them left too.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16989 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 4:24 pm to
Let's not forget the many 2nd half meltdowns under BB tenure.
Yes, some of it was due to coaching but I believe a culture or quitter mentality began to form and has carried over.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 5:59 pm to
quote:


Let's not forget the many 2nd half meltdowns under BB tenure.
Yes, some of it was due to coaching but I believe a culture or quitter mentality began to form and has carried over.


I don’t remember a lot of bad second half decisions from the sideline from BB, maybe I’m just forgetting. I do remember having a S&C coach, whose whole approach to every position was bigger is better. Remember when Alex Collins blew up like a balloon, and lost the moves and burst that made him good? Yeah, that was BB and his strength coach. We had every player toting around extra weight, and it showed in the second half of games.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22793 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:33 pm to
Alex was arrested not long ago with a gallon jar full of weed and a pistol...

He probably gained all of that weight from the munchies.
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