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If I’m wrong someone correct me but doesn’t briles run an offense similar to Riley?

Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:47 am
Maybe it’s because LSU is just so damn dominant this season but is anyone else worried after seeing what they did to Oklahoma? I was really hoping to see a more competitive game especially from Oklahoma’s offense. I was expecting OU to lose but to the tune of 56-45 not get boat raced out of the stadium
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:50 am to
It's hard for an offense to get motivated when the D is giving up TDs literally every 4-5 plays.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:51 am to
Nah. No one is beating Burrow this year.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:04 am to
Saints offensive scheme LSU runs is deadly with Burrow's accuracy and his ability to find the right mismatch.

They did all of that to OU without throwing the ball to Edwards-Helaire too.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:18 am to
I honestly would not have been upset if we hired joe Brady. But Pittman has done okay so far so hopefully it works out
Posted by FleaMarketBill
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 9:28 am to
I'd be happy to make a bowl game so I'm not going to do any hand wringing over whether we can beat a national title contender at this moment.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:16 am to
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If I’m wrong someone correct me but doesn’t briles run an offense similar to Riley?


No. Riley runs a similar system to Leach. He played QB at TTU under Leach, GA'd under Leach, coached positions under Leach, went with Ruffin to be the OC at ECU after Leach locked James in the hotbox for breaking eggs.

Riley is air raid with a little more emphasis on the run than Leach, but just as quick to abandon the run for the pass as Leach.

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I was really hoping to see a more competitive game especially from Oklahoma’s offense. I was expecting OU to lose but to the tune of 56-45 not get boat raced out of the stadium


It was a display of why Leach wants the SEC but the SEC does not want him. Hell, Arkansas was just as competitive as OU against LSU. You can take from that what you want, but its more likely that Arkansas would be tops on the big12 with their current roster than OU would be tops in the SEC with their current roster/system.

You can run any offense you want in the SEC and win, but you have to value being able to run the ball. You have to value defense, especially on the line, LSU gave something OU rarely sees during a season, an effective pass rush.

Briles offense is pass happy like is known for Big12 offenses, but the base of his offense is the veer/flex bone which is a run/option offense. Basically think of Hatfield's offense (if you're old enough) with a willingness to pass the ball down the field. You basically move the second running back to a WR/Hback position with the second run threat being the QB taking shotgun snaps.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:25 am to
Well briles definitely has SOME air raid in his offense. I mean his dad got his start under leach so let’s calm down on the lies there dale I know it’s tough but let’s stick to the truth


Let’s not forget Oklahoma and Texas have beaten Georgia Alabama and Auburn in recent years in New Years 6 bowls. So it’s not like he sec just shuts down big 12 offenses everytime they face them. And Riley losing to Georgia in the rose bowl didn’t have anything to do with Riley’s offense
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 10:31 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 10:49 am to
Art Briles may have coached under Leach but he does not at all run the air raid.

Briles roots are the veer, single wing, option type stuff and then uses simple, wide open spread and effective passing concepts off of that base. He loves the run. Air raid, by its very name, loves the pass.

It's kind of how Guss began as a single wing guy and based the Wildcat off of that.
If you read that thread the other day going into great detail on the Briles offense, it's weakness is against teams trained to stop the option, like the service academies.

The air raid's weakness is playing against elite speed and physicality that many SEC defenses posses.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 10:50 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:07 am to
I know briles doesn’t run the air raid but he has a few air raid concepts in the passing game that he’s molded and made his own unique style out of


ETA: Which is why I’m glad Kendall briles has some variations of air raid and veer option. It allows us to be multiple and attack defense in a lot of different ways
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:11 am to
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Which is why I’m glad Kendall briles has some variations of air raid and beer option.


Dude, I will be attending every game now...
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:12 am to
yep he’s taking the shotgun offense to a whole new level
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:14 am to
I've been running the beer option on Saturdays for the last 3 seasons and I've seen a noticeable improvement.
Posted by hilltophog
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 12:18 pm to
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I'd be happy to make a bowl game
id be happy not getting beat by the San Jose State quality teams and/or destroyed by the North Texas and Western Kentucky’s on our schedule.

Morris had arguably the easiest schedule in recent history and couldn’t compete. The schedule was perfect for a rebuild and he hammered us down.

Coach Pittman has the unenviable task of rebuilding with a tough schedule. Notre Dame..... what a first year test. Even our G5 scrubs aren’t complete shite. Nevada is a solid MWC team and ULM will come in with dreams of 2012. Pittmans job should simply be to install some pride and ownership on this team. He does that and we will win the games we are supposed to and better yet compete and show heart against teams that out talent us.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 1:34 pm to
I'm serious, Arkansas needa to buy out the ND and Texas games just like Michigan did to us.

This is not the time for bullshite showcases or home and homes with powerhouses or old rivals.


You gotta have wins. Get William and Mary on the schedule now.

If you gott have a P5 opponent call Maryland or Oregon State or TCU again while they're down.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 6:02 pm to
Riley is an air raid dude. Always has been. People argue over if the "veer and shoot" is a variation of the air raid. I personally would say yes. Briles coached under leach and just so happens to use heavily the four verts concept and wide splits(just with WRs) but like many other guys who came up under Leach they want more power running. Riley Dana Briles all go about this differently IMO. I'm pretty sure Dana was the guy who was first using the diamond formation back at okie state

I think that's what throws people off. You can watch Leach and then one of his many disciples and all the offenses look different enough they don't even seem the same at their core. Hell Leach doesn't even run the first variation of the offense despite being the guy who popularized it.

It's not like watching navy air force or army play.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/31/19 at 8:02 am to
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You gotta have wins. Get William and Mary on the schedule now.



William and Mary won an FCS title before the North Dakota State juggernaut got started. I am a firm believer in the Bear Bryant philosophy of schedule making. "If you are going to play a pussy team, make damn sure its a pussy team you can beat."

Besides, with our luck we'd buy out the ND and Texas games and replace them with the NDSU Bison. We would actually improve the caliber of our competition and have the indignity of getting motor boated by an FCS team.
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