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re: I Stand in Awe of Arkansas' Legislators

Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:03 pm to
so, what your saying is...

"Saying no to serving gays cake is discriminatory and should never happen.... However death threats and such for saying "no" is discriminatory and is funny?

Geesh...

If me saying "NO" to some Homo gets threats and a million dollar fund. Sign me up!

At what point does someone's religious beliefs, teachings, lifestyle begin to matter?

Balance the rights of someone to believe scripture that Homo is Wrongo with someone who wants to live the exact same way while forcing the issue down others's throats (They do that too, right?")

My God, A cake shop said "NO" got to another cake shop. Hell, walmart sells cake, LET THEM EAT IT!
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:10 pm to
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Not really a laughing matter when it's terroristic threats is it? The coach who made the threat of burning down the pizzeria has been suspended and deleted her Twitter account.


THIS!!!!
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Not really a laughing matter when it's terroristic threats is it?


Stop, you're breaking my heart.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:14 pm to
as an afterthought of this thread.

When did homosexuality become an issue of Bigotry/racial problem?

Amazing that we are now viewing Homosexuals as the next Selma. Wonder if Rosa would have sit at the back of the bus or front with them?

Seriously.... and how did someone who enjoys homo sex get labeled with the transgendered on this as well. One is messed up physically (dang sad) and the other mentally????

Now understand, I am being as pushy as possible today because I have nothing better to do!

But is gay the new Black? is tranny the new Orange? why aren't we all color blind? Rainbows, rainbows everywhere!
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Stop, you're breaking my heart.


Impassable... You have none...
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:19 pm to
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Impassable... You have none...


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If me saying "NO" to some Homo


How dare you call yourself a Christian if this is how you view your fellow man. Christ would have never called someone a homo. Shame on you Rev.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:23 pm to
one thing i thought kinda humorous - the other night on the lr news they were talking about this of course and talking about how they had spoken to business owners trying to get their opinions and not really any of them wanted to actually speak in front of the cameras. in this situation, i don't blame them at all. you're in business to make money, you need customers and either way you feel about this issue it going to pis someone off.

i have to say the over the top anti-religious crowd- those that automatically think every priest, preacher, member of any congregation is a molester or a huge hypocrite or a hate filled mongrel are as annoying to me as any of those on the other side of the argument.



Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:30 pm to
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How dare you call yourself a Christian if this is how you view your fellow man. Christ would have never called someone a homo. Shame on you Rev.


The first 4 letters of HOMOsexual. Shortened for abbreviation. And Christ called people worse.. A Brood of disgusting poisonous vipers, hypocrites, and Fools. BTW the word fool comes from the word Raca meaning not worthy to be spit upon.

next....

I don't view my fellow man any horrible way, but I do view the special interests of these folks up in arms claiming all types of bigotry when they are the ones walking into churches, synagogues, Christian businesses and French kissing while posing for the cameras.

SHAME SHAME SHAME SHOULDA KNOW BETTER! (Biggie Ratt)

Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:36 pm to
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one thing i thought kinda humorous - the other night on the lr news they were talking about this of course and talking about how they had spoken to business owners trying to get their opinions and not really any of them wanted to actually speak in front of the cameras. in this situation, i don't blame them at all. you're in business to make money, you need customers and either way you feel about this issue it going to pis someone off. i have to say the over the top anti-religious crowd- those that automatically think every priest, preacher, member of any congregation is a molester or a huge hypocrite or a hate filled mongrel are as annoying to me as any of those on the other side of the argument.


Geeze.... very well put, wish I had such tact sometimes.

the above has been fun, somewhat.. The irony of it all is getting ridiculous. I simply do not see this as an issue of bigotry from my view. Why, because I am not a bigot. I would have marched and have worked in the inner city to aid those of color for a reason most wouldn't understand.. They were and are at a disadvantage because of color and past.

I would never bar anyone from attending a place of worship regardless. Perhaps the Word of God will seek a change in their hearts of whatever sin it is they are having difficulty with. Addiction, Stealing, Anger, bigotry, doesn't matter... even Gluttony. which has the majority of this nation in its grasp.

But I do want to ask this.

Fat people are having to pay more for an airline seat at some places.
Gays get discounted rates over and above those of non gays at Hilton resorts. And a free bottle of bubbly.

Is this reverse discrimination ? We need answers dang it!
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:37 pm to
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And Christ called people worse.. A Brood of disgusting poisonous vipers, hypocrites, and Fools. BTW the word fool comes from the word Raca meaning not worthy to be spit upon.


None of those are gay slurs like the one you used though.
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Fat people are having to pay more for an airline seat at some places.
Gays get discounted rates over and above those of non gays at Hilton resorts. And a free bottle of bubbly.


i'd heard about the airline tickets thing but didn't know about the hilton thing.

i noticed where children's hospital will no longer hire smokers- there's another one. granted, smoking is bad but i can see how people would think that discriminatory as well.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:06 pm to
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i'd heard about the airline tickets thing but didn't know about the hilton thing. i noticed where children's hospital will no longer hire smokers- there's another one. granted, smoking is bad but i can see how people would think that discriminatory as well.


People discriminate everywhere and over everything.

Fat people, people with tats, gays, and yes, Christians. that is the point I am making while being a bit ironic in my statements to prove a point. A bit overly melodramatic but whatever..
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:46 pm to
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Fat people are having to pay more for an airline seat at some places.
Airline seats have value. A person who cannot fit comfortably into one seat should have to pay more for the other seat that cannot be occupied.

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Gays get discounted rates over and above those of non gays at Hilton resorts. And a free bottle of bubbly.
Yeah, and children get discounted rates all the time, as do seniors, and women on lady's night. Veterans get discounts in some places. Businesses give discounts all the time to certain groups or certain people. None of this is discriminatory. They're still offering their normal services to all kinds of people, and they aren't turning people away because of the decisions they make in their private lives.

None of this is clever.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:56 pm to
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as an afterthought of this thread.

When did homosexuality become an issue of Bigotry/racial problem?

Amazing that we are now viewing Homosexuals as the next Selma. Wonder if Rosa would have sit at the back of the bus or front with them?

Seriously.... and how did someone who enjoys homo sex get labeled with the transgendered on this as well. One is messed up physically (dang sad) and the other mentally????

Now understand, I am being as pushy as possible today because I have nothing better to do!

But is gay the new Black? is tranny the new Orange? why aren't we all color blind? Rainbows, rainbows everywhere!
LGBT gets lumped together because it all pertains to sexual orientation and gender identity. A transgender man (a women who self-identifies as a man) who has a relationship with a woman would be considered a lesbian by some people, if not most people.

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When did homosexuality become an issue of Bigotry/racial problem?

Well, it's not a racial problem. Not sure why you threw that in there.

It's been a bigotry problem for as long as any of us have been alive, but the difference in recent decades is that LGBT people and their allies are increasingly able to raise awareness about and advocate for LGBT rights. And when I say "LGBT rights" I really mean the same rights that are afforded to everyone else.

Some people, including yourself, like to talk about LGBT rights as though they are "special rights"--but they are not. An LGBT person who is denied a service in a place of public accommodation that is afforded to every other person is not being afforded equal rights. Asking to be treated the same in the marketplace is not asking for special rights.

If you read the recent court decisions regarding discrimination against LGBT people in places of public accommodation, you'll see that the government does have a legitimate and rational interest in protecting LGBT people from discrimination in the marketplace, just like the government protects people on the basis of race, religion, nationality, disability, etc.
Posted by The Program
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 1:58 pm to
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Yeah, and children get discounted rates all the time, as do seniors, and women on lady's night. Veterans get discounts in some places. Businesses give discounts all the time to certain groups or certain people. None of this is discriminatory. They're still offering their normal services to all kinds of people, and they aren't turning people away because of the decisions they make in their private lives.


So a straight male has to pay full price? Intersting
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 2:26 pm to
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So a straight male has to pay full price? Intersting


This...

Last year we were looking for a beach resort. The Hilton had some great rates... For LGBT folks. Better than AAA, AARP, Military, Government, rates...

I could book as long as I said I was gay and get the same room with extra benefits for 139.00 less a night. DISCRIMINATION DANG IT!
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:25 pm to
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I could book as long as I said I was gay and get the same room with extra benefits for 139.00 less a night.

Why didn't you do it? If you believe it's reverse discrimination so much, one of the few effective ways to fix a "wrong" is to exploit an inconsistency. When people begin to lose money they change their tone quickly.

People always forget the most important color in situations like this. The colors black and white are very marginal when it comes to racial divides, green is by far the most imprtant.
This post was edited on 4/3/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:30 pm to
I think it all boils down to whether you think homosexuality is a choice or not.

Some people do, some people don't and neither are going to change their mind about it. That's what makes it different from a racial issue.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:38 pm to
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That's what makes it different from a racial issue.


agreed... and no amount of money is worth me saying I am a Homosexual... YOU?
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 4/3/15 at 3:42 pm to
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I think it all boils down to whether you think homosexuality is a choice or not

People are still debating this?
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