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re: I don’t understand all the love for Kiffin

Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:41 pm to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:41 pm to
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Apologies. I was more upset about being told to sit down and shut up before that.




Seemed a little misdirected

It can be difficult to separate different arguments in a thread when things get a little heated. And to be fair to the guy that targeted you, he has taken alot of heat in the past for Leach so he is on edge alot of the time.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:51 pm to
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It is kind of a strange remark. I will sometimes add "IMO" after my post but mainly it is when I might be wavering on a subject and don't feel very strongly about it. I don't use "IMO" if I feel strongly about something, even if it is still an opinion.


Yeah, I was being argumentative. It's an old, silly habit.

I almost always use language making clear when I know there is no way to know for sure, based on information at hand, that what I am saying is 100% factual, that what I said is my opinion.

On the other hand, a lot of times if I'm making a prediction about something I'll state it as if it's fact.

Again, apologies.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28553 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:52 pm to
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18165 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:20 am to
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They actually do have some decent history with Mike Price. They have historically been awful but the 90s and early 2000s were great for them (by their standards) under Price. They had 3 straight 10 win seasons from 2001 to 2003. Granted after that it took them 10 years and Leach to win more than 6 games but they do have a glory period and Mike Leach is not the pinnacle of their program, that was Mike Price.
price had some success its true but the 4 years before leach took over the cougars won a total of 9 games including a year they won 1 game and a year they only won 2.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:57 am to
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Seemed a little misdirected


BoarEd:

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Hostility all over this board today. Y'all have fun with that.


Also BoarEd:

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I don't give a frick what you're okay with.




I was contemplating calling him BipolarEd for a little while.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38135 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:38 am to
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90% of our fan base and obviously administration are simpletons. I’ve tried explaining how incredibly amazing the job leach has done at both places for over 4 years now, even before Bielemas last year. Most of our fan base just don’t like him on a personal level because he’s outspoken and don’t know anything about the guy other than “that’s the weird coach with funny sound bites” and they just think we would be the laughing stock of the sec.


Bump

tPirate got his arse kicked against Air Force


LOL
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 12:43 am
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2714 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:55 am to
He lost to an in state FCS school last year or the year before, Eastern Washington.

I love Leach, but our fanbase would eat him alive the minute he dropped a game to UCA. That in my opinion is why it wouldn't have worked
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18825 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 2:17 am to
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That in my opinion is why it wouldn't have worked


And his shite recruiting.

Totally different animal getting away from that in his division in the Pac 12 and Big 12 at Tech.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3214 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:15 am to
frickin shite y’all. It’s over. Find something else.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38135 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:35 am to
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frickin shite y’all. It’s over. Find something else.


Hit close to home did it?


Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3214 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:50 am to
Not really. Did I like the idea of Leach or Kiffin? Yes. I liked them for their full body of work. Not 1 game. I also am glad we went in the direction we did with Pittman. The ship sailed on the others. Move the frick on with your retarded posting.
Posted by VagueMessage
Springdale, AR
Member since Jun 2013
4329 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 7:51 am to
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Bump

tPirate got his arse kicked against Air Force


LOL


That whole simpleton rant was actually aimed at me, because I said Leach was second tier compared to Kiffin. I didn't bother to give it a response, but Mike Leach is a guy with high highs and low lows. I would tire very quickly of losing to an FCS team during a 9 win season, or following up an 11–2 season with a losing season. Truthfully, all of you would tire of having zero consistency and no ability to predict how good or how shitty the team is going to be from year to year, because the guy is all over the place and you never know what to expect.

Leach has been at WSU for eight seasons. Four of those eight have been years he's finished with a losing record. He's finished ranked one single time. I'm not sure what to tell all of the Leach supporters. Is this really what you want? Not what you'd settle with after everyone else fell through, but is this really what you're clamored for as a first choice?

The numbers don't lie. Mike Leach isn't the coach he was at Texas Tech. He's just not. It has yet to be determined if we're going to kick ourselves for picking Pittman over Kiffin, but I thank God every day that our administration, as stupid as they are, aren't stupid enough to follow Chad Morris with Mike Leach.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:22 am to
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Not 1 game
losing to two FCS clubs - Portland State and Eastern Washington - in years 4 and 5 respectively is more than 1 game. That's something even Morris didn't do here in his two years of abject failure.

Also his hot take press conferences would only be endearing for about a season or two but the weird shite would get old when he continually gets his arse whipped or loses a game despite having built a 30 point lead.

Mike Irwin would have had a blast asking him who would win in a fight between Geronimo and Black Beard but beyond that Leach simply would have been a slightly funnier Bielema. Also - if we have reporters losing their shite over Coach Pittman being a gentleman (referring to a young woman as a young lady) then they would absolutely melt if he made the fat girlfriend speech or the sanctimonious troll tirade. Hey... but at least Leach said wms was loud that one time
Posted by VagueMessage
Springdale, AR
Member since Jun 2013
4329 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:28 am to
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losing to two FCS clubs - Portland State and Eastern Washington - in years 4 and 5 respectively is more than 1 game. That's something even Morris didn't do here in his two years of abject failure.


The people who say his "whole body of work" typically just mean what he did at Texas Tech + his best season at Washington State. He never had a losing year in ten seasons at TT. He's had four of eight at WSU. WSU and TT are roughly equally difficult places to win at, so it's not like he left as HC at Oklahoma and now he's at Purdue. He's clearly just not the same caliber of coach, which wouldn't inspire confidence in me if he came here and tried to play against Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and Texas A&M every year, plus Georgia and Florida on the cross divisional rotation.
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2714 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:50 pm to
Leach probably doesn't even eat butt
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26734 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Leach probably doesn't even eat butt




That may become an important question in future coaching searches. I mean, you know Nutt was all about the butt. And Petrino probably demanded people eat his.
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
8088 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38135 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Leach probably doesn't even eat butt



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