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Dude on hogville (sorry baws just being upfront) lists order of coaches
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:43 am
Posted on 11/12/19 at 2:43 am
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Mike Norvell will have the first crack at the University of Arkansas job, followed by Eliah Drinkwitz and Bill Clark, from my sources I have mentioned in other posts.
I checked his post history. Has literally posted only a couple times since the last coaching search. That was on the 3rd to say that morris will not be fired until he gets embarrassed by WKU, and seems to get the order of events that would happen leading up to it as confirmed by HY discussing the meeting that him and the admin had.
Says his source is his father that got his law degree at the university and is friends with multiple BOT members. I looked back at his post history, and he does infact mention Morris as a candidate last time.
He said this was the list as of Sunday night, but does infact later mention he has heard the rumor about Kiff asking about the job, and will get an update on that. Says this is just an early list.
this baws post history if you so wish to look back to seem he does seem to be plugged in, and does not post at all, but other than to convey info. Also no vague bullshite, and assitarian out sign off
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:15 am to russellvillehog
Clark above Drink and that would be my top 3 in order. Neat.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:43 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
I really don't get the Drinkwitz hype. He's had one year as a head coach. And yes, he's 8–1, but he took over for Scott Satterfield after he got hired away for a better job after an 11–2 season. Before that season, he was 9–4, 10–3, 11–2, and then 7–5. This is every season Appalachian State has ever been in FBS football. The guy built the program from the ground up and Drinkwitz took over a perfect situation.
Drinkwitz is almost certainly not going to be able to do what Satterfield did. It's even more glaring than Bielema's situation. It should be Clark and Norvell. Drinkwitz is way too risky of a hire at this point. But if this is all true, I have to say I like where the higher-ups' heads are at for the first time since 2012.
It really seems simple to me. We should avoid hiring coaches who are retreads who were fired for performance issues/major scandals, or coaches who have been woefully unproven. There's no guarantee any particular coach will work out, but there seem to be common sense red flags and risks that we can avoid to maximize the chances of success.
Drinkwitz is almost certainly not going to be able to do what Satterfield did. It's even more glaring than Bielema's situation. It should be Clark and Norvell. Drinkwitz is way too risky of a hire at this point. But if this is all true, I have to say I like where the higher-ups' heads are at for the first time since 2012.
It really seems simple to me. We should avoid hiring coaches who are retreads who were fired for performance issues/major scandals, or coaches who have been woefully unproven. There's no guarantee any particular coach will work out, but there seem to be common sense red flags and risks that we can avoid to maximize the chances of success.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 5:09 am to russellvillehog
Thats all nice and great except this time we have HY. He's the one doing the hiring and firing. I doubt any of those BOT guys knows who's on the list at the moment. I seriously doubt HY will risk his career on a Drinkwitz and Clark type of hires.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 5:46 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
Agreed.
Clark and Drinkwitz will be way down the list.
He’s hire someone like Leach well before them IMO, if only to stabilIze the program and get some money flowing again.
Clark and Drinkwitz will be way down the list.
He’s hire someone like Leach well before them IMO, if only to stabilIze the program and get some money flowing again.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:00 am to russellvillehog
I’d be down wtry Norvell and Clark. ( Clark would actually be ahead of Norvell for me). Not drinkitz that would be a very very very risky hire. I would think he would be the backup backup backup backup backup plan
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:17 am to VagueMessage
I just like him that’s all. I’m not an analyst or an expert and I’m not willing to try to be a fake intellectual on a message board about the “metrics” or some bullshite. Save it for Drewbie.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:21 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Why do you like Clark more than Norvell?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:29 am to Columbia
I think Clark is a good coach but Norvell has more name recognition.
Pure surface level, without interviewing each, Norvell seems like the best hire at this point but Clark’s work has been impressive. He’s just not as sexy.
Pure surface level, without interviewing each, Norvell seems like the best hire at this point but Clark’s work has been impressive. He’s just not as sexy.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:23 am to Columbia
Norvell didn’t build the program Fuente did. The thing is I don’t want someone who inherited a well oiled machine I’m still very weary of that from bert. And look at ucf right now under huepel. Kept humming along after frost left and frost is still somewhat struggling at Nebraska. Leach and Clark are my top 2 because they are both proven program builders.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:28 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Clark has a 50% winning percentage. That takes him off my list. Campbell has been an HC longer and is winning at a 64% clip.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:47 am to ArHog
Campbell would be a homer in hire but o think it’s a pipe dream
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:15 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Norvell didn’t build the program Fuente did.
He "inherited" a team that went 8-5 and then went 10-3. The next year his team went 8-6 and now he is 8-1.
I think it's fair to say after 4 years he's riding the ups and down and delivering on his own.
This is completely different than Bert and Wisconsin IMO.
Clark just isn't a big enough splash for what we need right now. Do I think he'd be "ok"? Yes, but I think Norvell would be much better and bring more overall optimism.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:23 am to ArHog
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Clark has a 50% winning percentage.
Where are you getting this from? He is 42-21 all time as a coach.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:04 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Norvell didn’t build the program Fuente did
Only thing that gives me pause, but he has sustained it well
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:11 am to Columbia
Was this top secret information provided by Duckman?
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:29 am to ArHog
Bill Clark has only had one season at 0.500 in his career. That was a 6-6 record at UAB the year they were shut down.
Every other year he has a winning record.
He was 11-4 at Jacksonville St.
He's 31-17 at UAB.
He's won every season since they shut UAB down for two years.
Every other year he has a winning record.
He was 11-4 at Jacksonville St.
He's 31-17 at UAB.
He's won every season since they shut UAB down for two years.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:30 am to beebefootballfan
Good old duckman. Still wild to think how that guy conned a large portion of HV into leaving their board and following him to the promise land. Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:46 am to TheCheshireHog
Grudenville. Classic
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:01 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
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Clark type of hires.
Dude, Clark took a team from the death penalty to a legit New Years six contender in only a few years.
He makes like 500K at UAB, top. He plays defense big time. He's a great fit.
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