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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:04 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:04 pm to
Really hope Franklin says yes then. Golesh just looks like another Silverfield to me.

Hotshot OC at big program hired to struggling smaller program and goes 7-6 is eerily Morris-esque. Granted he will have a better year than that this year. Obviously don't think he'd be as bad as Morris, but doesn't seem like the guy to make us take the next step in this conference.
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:09 pm to
I get warm fuzzies watching USF play. I think he’s a future star.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:14 pm to
I'll take your word for it. I admittedly haven't watched them play much. The resume on paper doesn't pop out as a huge wow factor at first glance, though.

Although I will say I give him points for winning at a program that hasn't won a lot unlike someone like Silverfield who just grabbed the baton at a winning program and kept going.
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Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:16 pm to
Golesh could have more upside, possibly with more risk
Franklin is the known safe option
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 5:40 am to
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yes, the only good football player that Bert should get credit for is AC. Jonathon williams was a Bobby recruit as well. And I think Hunter comes regardless


Bert also brought that Iowa QB that turned into a heck of a linebacker too. Friends with his dad.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 5:47 am to
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What's the backup plan?


Wait until Franklin signs with Auburn or VaTech. Then scramble trying to hire whoever Missouri doesn’t hire after Drink goes to Florida. Because our Athletic Director has no clue what to do with the 3 main sports. He is an Olympic sports director.

No GM in place right now trying to sign our best players into a contract for next year is very dumb.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 6:18 am to
I still believe Bobby with Durkin as DC is a winning combo. Could probably give Bobby a 4-5 year contract that’s front loaded with major retention bonus after year 5… so you could let him go if he doesn’t do anything. And then get in a season with less fires.
Posted by Roy Suggs
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:15 am to
I won't complain if we hire Franklin since we essentially need a fricking rebuild and I think he is capable of that.

But I have no issues with Golesh at all and would welcome him to the program, to me he is an exciting hire. Absolute hard pass on Silverfield though.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:33 am to
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I won't complain if we hire Franklin since we essentially need a fricking rebuild and I think he is capable of that.


This goes back to my other thread, what are we? What are we rebuilding towards? If we rebuilt towards a Ferentz model, the fans would be mad even with us winning.
Posted by Roy Suggs
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 8:47 am to
We are a football program that is the worst in the SEC. I think we are rebuilding to get above dogshit level. Our football program is literally the worst football program in the SEC, which I think pains most people to even admit. We are below Vandy. I am not sure what we are as far as how we want to win and what style of play we should go with. I just want to get back to being competitive again.

I think Franklin can get us moving in the right direction and hopefully beyond. Most would have enough confidence in him to at least bring us back from the gutter. Who knows what he is capable of here but as I said, I wouldn't be upset with the hire.

Wish all the shenanigans that go on with coaching hires etc....give Golesh a look. I say this on Golesh as well since apparently Petrino is out.
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:23 am to
No player is signing any contract without a HC in place.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:26 am to
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No player is signing any contract without a HC in place.


Probably not. But if we had a GM in place they could have been under a 2 year contract with retention bonus, which is what Texas Tech is doing I believe.
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:32 am to
I guess. Two of those 5 stars they had committed already decommitted and went elsewhere. Fishy.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:33 am to
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We are a football program that is the worst in the SEC. I think we are rebuilding to get above dogshit level. Our football program is literally the worst football program in the SEC, which I think pains most people to even admit. We are below Vandy. I am not sure what we are as far as how we want to win and what style of play we should go with. I just want to get back to being competitive again.

I think Franklin can get us moving in the right direction and hopefully beyond. Most would have enough confidence in him to at least bring us back from the gutter. Who knows what he is capable of here but as I said, I wouldn't be upset with the hire.

Wish all the shenanigans that go on with coaching hires etc....give Golesh a look. I say this on Golesh as well since apparently Petrino is out.


None of this identifies what we actually want and are.

I believe we are an offensive first school. Usually undersized but quicker so we have to use speed and schemes more to our advantage. We also have to realize we aren’t going to go into California and Florida and pull top players every year. We need to stick to the schemes being ran in Texas with Texas players which should make the majority of our team with others coming from Tulsa, Memphis, Louisiana and Mississippi. I’m not saying ignore all the other areas, I’m saying that should be our main focus. That and junior college/transfers to get holes we have.

If you don’t know what you are, you can’t even begin to actually fix the problem. The first thing a doctor does is find the problem. If everything you press on hurts, maybe it’s your finger.

Our finger is our AD refusing to get on the paying of players, farming it out to a company who took half the money and not hiring a GM. Are you telling me these Stephens and other money managers couldn’t have put together a NIL agreements? Nah they just get to tell us to play games in Little Rock.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 9:37 am to
Knowing what we are narrows down who we should be looking at for a coach. We can’t bully people around, No Bert. A Texas style coach that goes fast and does more with less seems to be what we need. Briles, Bobby, Will Stein, Traylor, GJ Kinne, etc… get someone like this and then give them more with our NIL.

I believe Franklin will be another Bert. He doesn’t run an out scheming offense, and he doesn’t seem willing to adapt.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:29 am to
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I believe Franklin will be another Bert. He doesn’t run an out scheming offense, and he doesn’t seem willing to adapt.


Admittedly I don’t know much about Franklin but I get what you are saying.

Looking at another 2 win season it probably sounds ridiculous to be questioning if a guy who made the CFP just last year is the right hire. I haven’t looked into why his record is so abysmal against highly ranked teams, it’s concerning on paper though. I’m not sold on him, primarily because he may end up with a Jimbo type contract with a huge buyout.

On the flip side his interview on College Gameday was interesting. Seems he may have a chip on his shoulder with a lot left to prove. His pre-NIL work at Vandy was impressive and frankly better than what Pittman was able to do here.

I’d be good with Golesh from a “fit” perspective because we need someone who can scheme/win without equal talent. Big risk though given the state of our program. Article on ESPN today about Texas Tech and the work their GM has done scouting players further highlights how far behind we are in all areas.

Hope this turns out well but if history is any indication this ends up being like the Stan Heath hire. Making a “safer” hire from an optics perspective vs just getting the right guy and saying screw the optics/risk.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 11:37 am to
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Hope this turns out well but if history is any indication this ends up being like the Stan Heath hire. Making a “safer” hire from an optics perspective vs just getting the right guy and saying screw the optics/risk.


I agree, history might not repeat but it definitely rhymes. IMO with Hunter being a feckless talentless person, he will go after who has been calling him personally this entire time. Sayin I really like the way you handled Sam, yeah everyone wanted you to not extend he contract when he went with Sexton, and yeah everyone wanted him fired last year, but you stuck to your guns, also I like how you are fighting back on this NIL.

Which means we will get a Dabo, a shite sandwich they tell us is caviar.
Posted by spehog
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:01 pm to
From whatever has been said here and other places it sounds like Hunter has very little say in this hire. Sounds like his days are numbered and Kevin Scanlon is going to be taking that spot.

LINK
Posted by GoldenSombrero
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:15 pm to
Just listening to the radio the past 3-4 weeks seems pretty obvious HY is out. One of the NWA shows was having a discussion about who would be hiring the next coach. It was subtle but you can always tell when certain guys get the go ahead to quit toeing the company line for the moment.

I heard back in Sept HY was looking at taking a role within the SEC office. Not sure if there’s any truth to that.

And aside from the politics and games that get played internally, Little Rock debate, etc I’d much rather start hiring AD’s that have a deeper connection to the state or program.
This post was edited on 11/7/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Woopigsooie20

You & JC have the same sources

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