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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:39 pm to Drewbie
Agree. Bert did Bert. But we were solid passing after BAs first year under Bert as HC. AA was good too.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 11:18 am to JeffLebowski
Arkansas is 24th in the FBS in yards/game.
Arkansas is 73rd in the FBS in points/game.
That difference of 49 spots is the single largest among all 131 teams.
i.e. Arkansas has the biggest negative discrepancy between yardage production and point production in the country.
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Arkansas is 73rd in the FBS in points/game.
That difference of 49 spots is the single largest among all 131 teams.
i.e. Arkansas has the biggest negative discrepancy between yardage production and point production in the country.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 12:12 pm to FayetteNAM
Our extremely poor red zone efficiency is the main culprit for that.
It doesn’t help when we have had multiple goal line fumbles, red zone stallouts, and drives deep into opponents’ territory netting zero points.
It doesn’t help when we have had multiple goal line fumbles, red zone stallouts, and drives deep into opponents’ territory netting zero points.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:08 pm to FayetteNAM
Just like Chesh alluded to in this thread, Briles is good between the 20's.
Poor preparation and costly penalties are definitely part of the problem.
The entire coaching staff needs to better.
Poor preparation and costly penalties are definitely part of the problem.
The entire coaching staff needs to better.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 2:31 pm to FayetteNAM
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Arkansas is 24th in the FBS in yards/game.
Which is why we have people here treating those bitching about the offense and Briles like they are idiots who don't understand "modern football."
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Arkansas is 73rd in the FBS in points/game.
Which is why we are bitching. The point of offense is to score points, and we aren't doing it. Yes, the defense is atrocious, and Odom probably should be fired, but if your offense can only score 2 or 3 touchdowns per game against any defense with a pulse, then it doesn't really matter how bad the defense is, does it?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 3:01 pm to troyt37
It seems the style of football that I grew to love is long gone.
21-28 points would win the game! Because we had a defense worth a damn.
If a Offense can score that much, then the defense bilaterally speaking, should be able to stop that much scoring to be in sync, right?
21-28 points would win the game! Because we had a defense worth a damn.
If a Offense can score that much, then the defense bilaterally speaking, should be able to stop that much scoring to be in sync, right?
Posted on 10/12/22 at 3:06 pm to FayetteNAM
Yeah… That’s pretty well known even anecdotally. Not sure what you’re getting at other than stating what we all already know - we move the ball pretty well but suck at scoring.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 3:30 pm to Razorback Reverend
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It seems the style of football that I grew to love is long gone.
That's pretty much a fact. I'm reminded of that every time I see our quarterback hand off the ball to a running back who has to start from a dead stop right there. Seems like we could implement a play or two where the running back actually has a head of steam toward the LOS. That pistol formation only seems to give the defense time to meet the running back at the hole, to me.
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If a Offense can score that much, then the defense bilaterally speaking, should be able to stop that much scoring to be in sync, right?
That should go both ways, shouldn't it?
ETA: At the risk of having several heaping scorn upon me for wanting to out Bama Bama, real football isn't dead. Did you notice the single I formation they were using, especially in short yardage and goal line situations? I'm pretty sure I even saw one play with a fullback in the I.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 3:50 pm to troyt37
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Which is why we are bitching. The point of offense is to score points, and we aren't doing it.
Normally I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on this because most of the time when you don't score from inside the 10 yard line it's usually pretty fluky and if you keep getting there, odds are you're going to eventually score more times than not.
But we're developing a pattern of screwing up so much down there that it's fair to question if it's just something we're not coaching or preparing enough at. It's happened enough to where it's hard to say it's bad luck.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 4:01 pm to gohogs141
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Normally I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on this because most of the time when you don't score from inside the 10 yard line it's usually pretty fluky and if you keep getting there, odds are you're going to eventually score more times than not.
But we're developing a pattern of screwing up so much down there that it's fair to question if it's just something we're not coaching or preparing enough at. It's happened enough to where it's hard to say it's bad luck.
Things get pretty tight inside the 10, the passing windows shrink up, and it seems like we can't come up with a high percentage passing play to get the job done down there. So we generally try running it in, defenses play to our tendencies, and we get stuffed, whether it's with KJ or a running back.
For the life of me, I don't know why we don't stack all the receivers to one side, go play action and roll KJ or Malik out to the other side. If a receiver gets open coming toward the QB fine, if not, either of them should be able to get in, KJ with brute force and Malik with speed.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 5:08 pm to troyt37
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That should go both ways, shouldn't it? I mean, If the defense gives up 42 points a game, the offense should be able score that much to keep up, right?
Uhhh, Nahh!!!
Honestly, at what point should the Defense feel the majority of the blame here man. I mean, Tamu was on the O...Ohhh how stupid we were. But TAMU are terrible too.
Bama/MSU was most definitely on the Defense.
49 points to Bama with a 2nd string that couldnt pass...
40 points to Miss State.
We should not be giving Briles the same grief as Odom period.
SO, let's go back to last season.
The Ole Miss game. Unfreakingbelievable. If the D could have held them to only 50 points.. Right?
And, how much difference does it make psychologically/physically for a Offense to know that they have to score every single drive to have a chance with a Defense that has ED lmao. They can't get up for anything!
Gotta tell ya man, I am ready for the Odom experience to end, or at least get some heat on the ole bald dude!
Posted on 10/12/22 at 5:32 pm to ArHog
quote:It would help if the players actually executed too. As popular as it is to (rightfully) bitch about Briles and his playcalling at times, the number of plays that didn't work because they were bad calls is vastly outnumbered by the number of plays that didn't work because someone on the field screwed up. Briles doesn't make KJ superman from 5 yards out or cause the runningbacks to inexplicably fumble inside the 5 consistently. He didn't cause the bad snap that pushed Little's kick back further against A&M. He's not the one that struggles to keep his eyes up to find the open receivers. He's not the one that gave Matt Landers bricks for hands. Y'all think it's coincidence that all of a sudden we had dudes open deep when Hornsby played after struggling to get any deep threat all year?
The entire coaching staff needs to better.
This isn't all on the coaches. At some point it's ok to say the players have fricked up a lot of good opportunities. Pittman's eluded to the same. Some of the shite they do in games he'll address and say "Well they got it right all week in practice.". What more do you want them to do at that point? If they've practiced and performed all week up to that point and then just shite the bed in the game, how are you going to blame the coach? The player fricked up when the lights came on.
All I know is I'd hate to have my reputation locked with the decision making and performance of a bunch of college kids on a week to week basis.
I should note this is more about the offense. The defense is its own can of worms. I don't fully blame Odom for not being able to weather the amount of injuries but we shouldn't be damn near dead last in all of D1.
This post was edited on 10/12/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 10/12/22 at 5:43 pm to Drewbie
Coaches coach and players play.
The ridiculous amount of motion penalties is a coaching issue.
The ridiculous amount of motion penalties is a coaching issue.
Posted on 10/12/22 at 8:10 pm to ArHog
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The ridiculous amount of motion penalties is a coaching issue.
The lack of execution is a coaching issue too. Not calling plays that put the players and team in a position to succeed is a coaching issue. Not changing the scheme when you are getting gashed on defense is a coaching issue. Not having enough talent and players is a coaching issue.
I don’t know if Pittman’s “love ‘‘em up” attitude from previous years has turned into a reluctance to get in the players asses when they don’t execute, but it kind of seems like it. I think maybe it has. And I have to wonder if it has spilled over to the coordinators too. Briles was marginally better against Bama and State, but that isn’t good enough. Odom needs to be told that if he doesn’t do something to help the defense, he’s going to be fired before the season is over, and good luck with that next job.
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:41 am to troyt37
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Which is why we have people here treating those bitching about the offense and Briles like they are idiots who don't understand "modern football."
Which is why we are bitching. The point of offense is to score points, and we aren't doing it. Yes, the defense is atrocious, and Odom probably should be fired, but if your offense can only score 2 or 3 touchdowns per game against any defense with a pulse, then it doesn't really matter how bad the defense is, does it?
Idk the answer but how many of those are fumbles/turnovers within the 20?
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:07 am to FayetteNAM
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Idk the answer but how many of those are fumbles/turnovers within the 20?
I think those stick in our head a lot stronger than the punts and TOD series. The inability to sustain drives is what is killing us. Only surpassed by our inability to score in the red zone. The turnovers just enrage everyone.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 7:08 am
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:12 pm to ArHog
Get in here bishes
Please defend this coaching staff
Please defend this coaching staff
Posted on 11/5/22 at 6:13 pm to ArHog
More concerned about the unit our HC supposedly specializes in
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