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Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Jack Ruby
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 12:51 pm to
Looks like either some of us got bad info (including D. West) on Criswell or he's blowing a lot of smoke up NC's arse.

He basically told one of their recruiting guys that he's "100%" in on UNC and that he's signing in Wed.

This is gut punch. It's may be Chad biggest F-U to the program he left in shambles.

Now all we have is KJ, Jones, and that's about it. The latter if which should not even be playing D1 ball.

Gonna have to mop up on a juco or Transfer just to even get a full roster of QBs.

Hell we may be in a Lynn Bowden situation with Burks if KJ gets hurt this year. Kwhixh actually may not be a bad thing)
Posted by gohogs141
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 1:00 pm to
Yeah I really have no idea what to do with the QB situation unless the new OC brings someone with him. There are some good QBs in the transfer portal but they're all either pro style or underclassmen. Ideally I'd like to get someone who is immediately eligible and will be a junior or senior but I'm not sure who would agree to being a backup that would be any good. Unless we were to land someone like Duffey I'd rather stick it out with KJ.

Maybe we could try to find a Nick Marshall type like Auburn did, but that's incredibly rare.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 10:52 pm to
qb is soooooo bad. they couldn't have mismanaged this more. I'm disappointed sparklesnake is leaving. he needs someone to work on his fundamentals and guide him to better decisions and hes nfl bound
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/16/19 at 11:02 pm to
QB can get better in a hurry with a competent QB coach and playcaller.

We haven't had either since Enos and even with Dan his recruiting (which could've possibly been a result of Bret meddling not allowing offers) lacked in guys like Kelley and Hyatt.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:21 am to
I really really dislike Chad Morris. How the frick do you miss out on a 4 star QB who is family of a Razorback (current NFL linebacker) Dre Greenlaw. A kid who was ready to commit DAY MF'N ONE. Criswell didn't care about our shitty record. He was a hog. "Well he had a much better QB commit in his son. Just ignore Chandler's frail stature and the fact that he actually did worse than Criswell at the Dallas Combine. Texas croots are the best. Texas is mucho better than Arkansaw ball. Texas forever..... "

Here is a trick......you take Criswell's commit anyways. If your son is so chickenshit that he doesn't want competition then you should have done better to not raise a pussy. IF Chandler is the badass you think he is then have them compete. IF he wins the job he wins the job. You can always move one of the other failures of a QB to defense. shite - I bet Criswell would have came here and then gladly moved to defense if Chandler won the job fair and square. Plenty of great coaches recruit QBs and move them to other positions. Gary Patterson at TCU does this on both sides of the ball. Ya'll remember Devin White getting recruited to LSU then be switched day one to linebacker. Play the game and get the players here.

This all boils down to Morris wanting an open an easy LEFT LANE for his son to HAMMER DOWN and FULL TILT BOOGIE. I don't want to hear anybody cry about nepotism with the Allens every again. Those boys earned their stripes. They busted their arse and were light years better than anything we've seen the last two seasons. Plus their father is a pencil pusher with zero clout not the head coach like the failed aggie.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:48 am to
Criswell is a great athlete, Arkansas should recruit and sign every athlete is this caliber that is instate every year.

If he doesn't work out at QB, try him at a different position. One of the greatest DBs in NFL history came to Arkansas as a QB, didn't pan out and Hatfield moved him to get him on the field.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:52 am to
You know Criswell doesn’t have to sign tomorrow right? I don’t blame him for going to UNC but NSD isn’t for another month and a half, plenty of time to get to know the staff, see who the OC hire is, etc. I keep reading “he wanted to be a Hog!”, well, if so why not wait until Feb just to be sure?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:59 am to
I think he probably wanted to be but he built relationships and made commitments to other teams. we didnt have our shite together and the staff here apparently didnt have much of a relationship with him
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:09 am to
quote:

One of the greatest DBs in NFL history came to Arkansas as a QB, didn't pan out and Hatfield moved him to get him on the field.
. Jamaal Anderson was a wide receiver but turned into a monster defensive end.

Get the best you can get and make them work.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:27 am to
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well, if so why not wait until Feb just to be sure?
multiple reasons

1. He was ignored by the previous staff. That still lingers despite the change of coaches

2. He’s been given the Mac Brown ultimatum/sales pitch. Loyalty, Vince Young, National Championship Etc. Probably been told that they can only hold his spot for so long and reminded him that they wanted him first and stuck with him despite other QBs wanting in.

3. Family dynamics - momma and papa probably don’t care much for Arkansas after the recruitment.

Ultimately there is not enough time to make up ground. Criswell isn’t John Oliver. He actually has offers and legit choices. Morris screwed us over. I’m just happy that Criswell didn’t draw this out and string us along.
Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:30 am to
Don't bring the John Oliver stuff over here, this is a JO free site. Thanks.
Posted by gohogs141
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:35 am to
UNC has a freshman all-american QB this year. Can't blame him for wanting to go there because of that but it also means he probably won't get to play for a while. Granted there was no guarantee he would here either with KJ.

Didn't realize how well North Carolina has recruited lately. Figured they were just a basketball school that recruited like Duke or Kansas but they've had classes in between #17-#30 for the most part.
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:46 am to
Do you actually know all the shite you are positing or just making assumptions? Maybe Criswell didn’t want the competition with Chandler Morris? Also was morris not supposed to offer his own son who happens to be a 4 star too? What a great look that would be if you didn’t offer your own kid who then signs with Oklahoma or Clemson. Look I get the anger the Morris but there seems to be a whole lot of assumptions made on how their recruitment went down with very little facts.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 8:47 am
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:52 am to
I never thought we have a Chaggie lover on here but damn. Also are you mentally handicapped? You can take more than one QB.

Criswell wanted to commit and wasn’t scared of Chandler. All Morris had to do was take his commitment. Hell if he would have at least kept recruiting him as a contingency plan we’d be in better shape. He ignored Criswell instead.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 8:53 am
Posted by Latarian
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:54 am to
There it is, can’t make a counterargument without being called a Chaggie. Go back to Hogville.

You’re just like Porkatarian, PRJ, etc, you don’t know shite.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 8:55 am
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4019 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 9:33 am to
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You’re just like Porkatarian, PRJ, etc, you don’t know shite.


I agree with about .01% of what he says, but he is right on this one. He tried to commit more than once and Chad wouldn’t take him.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 10:24 am to
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1. He was ignored by the previous staff. That still lingers despite the change of coaches


I’m not getting into the rest of it and I’m certainly not sure that he ever or least recent years wanted to be a hog at all.

But that sentence is 100% true, Morrilton played at Farmington this year, would have been a very short drive for Chad but nope he couldn’t even bothered to do that.

Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24046 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Criswell isn’t John Oliver. He actually has offers and legit choices. Morris screwed us over. I’m just happy that Criswell didn’t draw this out and string us along.


What is this about, I don't remember the John Oliver situ...
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24046 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:07 pm to
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Don't bring the John Oliver stuff over here, this is a JO free site. Thanks.


nevermind…
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64977 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:11 pm to
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this is a JO free site
Well shite, I've been breaking this rule for years.
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