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re: WR Recruiting - No Excuse
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:40 pm to Glorious
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:40 pm to Glorious
I mean, I will say, those guys would have clearly had bigger seasons if Tua was playing QB all year. But it just goes to show that what is around guys (QB, OC) greatly impacts their ability to make plays consistently.
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:49 pm to Tupelo
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How many freshmen anywhere would be considered first or second round draft players half way into their freshmen year? Virtually none.
Waddle, Julio, Coop, im sure the list goes on if you look across the country. Are you really saying that you can't tell when you have a DUDE on your team who's a freshman? We knew Waddle and Julio were special from game one.
Again, idk what peoole are seeing from Prentice. I don't see how he's seperated himself from the pack of mediocrity at that position at all.
The only guy who stands out at all is Bond, but he clearly doesn't know the playbook yet.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 12:55 pm to bamabenny
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Literally every receiver we have in the league other than Julio goes against almost all of these points.
My point was that WR is a pretty easy position to evaluate.
Aside from the fact that you couldn't comprehend my post, if you're making the point that size and strength don't matter at the WR position you're a fricking idiot. And the fact that you mentioned Julio when he's clearly the best WR to come out of Alabama proves my point.
Our quick small Devonta Smith is now the clear #2 WR in Philadelphia ever since big AJ Brown showed up.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:02 pm to ChromaticTide
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Our quick small Devonta Smith is now the clear #2 WR in Philadelphia ever since big AJ Brown showed up.
Which brings me to my next point - the overromanticization of the Jeudy, Ruggs, Smith WR corps.
Idk if yall realized but all 3 of those dudes are busts in the NFL. Waddle was the best of the bunch by far but he spent his whole time at Alabama on the bench (great coaching right there.)
LSU's WR corps of Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson was far superior in retrospect. Ole Miss' WR corps of DK Metcalf and AJ Brown was far superior. The list goes on.
So maybe it was CRAZY that Alabama had a pretty good WR corps but it's really not that unusual, and should really be expected when we have the #1 class year after year.
This again doesn't address the point that our current WR corps is terrible, and I don't see how anyone can deny this after seeing the blatantly obvious drop-off in last year's NCG.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:12 pm to ChromaticTide
Can a mod please ban this piece of shite coonass alter?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:13 pm to ChromaticTide
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Which brings me to my next point - the overromanticization of the Jeudy, Ruggs, Smith WR corps.
Idk if yall realized but all 3 of those dudes are busts in the NFL. Waddle was the best of the bunch by far but he spent his whole time at Alabama on the bench (great coaching right there.)
it just hard to take you seriously when you post stuff like this.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:19 pm to Robot Santa
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Can a mod please ban this piece of shite coonass alter?
Why because you disagree with me?
It's so weird how people respond to unpopular opinions on here. Every year there are agreed upon things that can be criticized.
This year we apparently can dog on the coordinators all we want. Apparently all of the players are off limits this year.
Im an independent thinker. Sorry that upsets you. Here ya go: BoB STINKS!!! He's the worst OC in the entire country!!! What a fricking idiot he doesn't know how to utilize our players. If we had Sark our offense would score 100 points a game!!!
Are you happy now?
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:20 pm to Funky Tide 8
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it just hard to take you seriously when you post stuff like this.
What did i say that was wrong?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 1:38 pm to ChromaticTide
Well for one you said that Waddle spent his whole time on the bench at Bama. He had 106 catches, 2000 yards, and 17 TDs receiving in 2 and a half seasons at Bama. As well as almost 1,000 pr/kr yards and 3 TDs.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:41 pm to ChromaticTide
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Are you really saying that you can't tell when you have a DUDE on your team who's a freshman?
Yes. Until Devonta Smith caught that pass against Georgia, he was virtually unknown. He became a Heisman trophy winner and arguably one of the greatest college WR's of all time.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:45 pm to ChromaticTide
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Which brings me to my next point - the overromanticization of the Jeudy, Ruggs, Smith WR corps.
Idk if yall realized but all 3 of those dudes are busts in the NFL.
If you think Smitty has been a bust, you clearly don't do football very well. He is #23 in the league in catches, but his percentage of catches to targets is 75%. He's caught 3/4 of every ball thrown his way...better than Jefferson and way better than Chase.
To suggest that Smith is a bust, frankly, is pretty damn stupid.
And as far as Ruggs goes, he had a decent rookie season and had equaled those numbers through week 7 in his second season, when he killed that woman in the wreck. To suggest that he's a football bust because of his performance on the field again is pretty damkn stupid.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 2:49 pm to ChromaticTide
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it just hard to take you seriously when you post stuff like this.
What did i say that was wrong?
The fact that I had to explain it to you in my post right above this is pretty indicative of the fact that you have all the football IQ of the two-week-old head of lettuce in my fridge.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:00 pm to ChromaticTide
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You could make the case that our best WR the past 2 seasons has been a transfer that couldnt even get playing time at OSU or Georgia.
Who is the Georgia WR you are calling one of our best the past two years? I know, Burton but Too many of his targets have resulted in drops. And he'd need to be un-vaxxed and confirmed Covid 19 to get any separation from evan an average DB.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:33 pm to TroyTider
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I know, Burton but Too many of his targets have resulted in drops. And he'd need to be un-vaxxed and confirmed Covid 19 to get any separation from evan an average DB.
I know Burton sucks. And yet, he's a starter, because our WRs suck. That's the point.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:39 pm to BamaGradinTn
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If you think Smitty has been a bust, you clearly don't do football very well.
Devonta Smith was drafted to be a WR 1. You don't draft a guy that high to be a 2nd tier receiver. Ever since the Eagles got AJ Brown, Devonta has been a nice complimentary receiver, but you typically want more from a top 10 pick that you traded up to get. I like Devonta Smith, but if the draft were done over again, he'd probably be a 2nd round pick.
To claim that Devonta Smith is a better NFL WR than either Chase or Jefferson proves that YOU have the football IQ of a head of lettuce, and that you're high on the crimson kool-aid my friend.
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And as far as Ruggs goes
Again, nobody is picking that guy in the first round if they had a do-over, and on another level, nobody would've drafted him period.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 11/3/22 at 3:54 pm to ChromaticTide
My point isn't to say that the WR corps of Jeudy/Smith/Ruggs was bad. But some of you are acting like that was a miracle and can never be expected again. That's the level of WRs that we SHOULD expect as the top program in the nation.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 4:26 pm to ChromaticTide
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Are you really saying that you can't tell when you have a DUDE on your team who's a freshman?
I barely knew our Heisman trophy winning WR existed until he caught the game winner at MSU. I almost forgot about him until the last play of the CFP championship.
Jeudy was already a game breaker, yes. But I had to wonder WTH Ruggs was doing on all the other plays besides his first 6 catches, five of which were TDs.
I certainly wouldn’t have bet the farm on a guys future with just 6 catches his first year…too early to tell, much less call him a DUDE yet.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 5:55 pm to ChromaticTide
As a general forum rule on the interwebz, when you routinely have 3 plus uninterrupted posts in a row, you are pushing an agenda and usually a trolling one.
If not a troll (highly in doubt), recall that one should argue like they're right but listen like they may be wrong
If not a troll (highly in doubt), recall that one should argue like they're right but listen like they may be wrong
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 9:43 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:29 pm to ChromaticTide
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Ole Miss' WR corps of DK Metcalf and AJ Brown was far superior. The list goes on.
So you’re saying 2nd year Smitty is a bust with a 75% success rate and being #2 to AJ, who is far superior?
Besides stating what you alone think is obvious, what’s your point?
I think Robot Santa may be on to you.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 7:44 pm to ChromaticTide
You can’t tell these hard heads here anything. “But so and so is almost faster than Ursain Bolt!” they say. The truth is if 100 meter times were so important I think we’d see a lot more track stars in college and professional football.
There’s a difference in a players speed and movement wearing full pads and helmet with people bumping and pushing you vs running against the clock and open air wearing trainers and shorts.
I think Bama has a roster full of average to good players at WR but none are 1st day draft picks.
Maybe some of the freshmen will improve for next year.
There’s a difference in a players speed and movement wearing full pads and helmet with people bumping and pushing you vs running against the clock and open air wearing trainers and shorts.
I think Bama has a roster full of average to good players at WR but none are 1st day draft picks.
Maybe some of the freshmen will improve for next year.
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 8:05 pm
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