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Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:06 am to
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:06 am to
They are not getting good advice from all around them. Parents, friends, agents telling you are worth a shite more if you go here or there. Just not smart decisions being made, but frick'em. You live and you learn.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:41 am to
We don't get mad when kids getting processed so you can't get mad if they leave to get playing time
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:07 am to
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Take Bond for instance. It makes perfect sense for him to leave. He's very likely making more money at Texas and they've got a quarterback that can get the ball to him.


Milroe didn't get the ball to him on Gravedigger? That was a perfect pass.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56379 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:31 am to
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Take Bond for instance. It makes perfect sense for him to leave. He's very likely making more money at Texas and they've got a quarterback that can get the ball to him.




UT's leading WR in 2023



Isaiah Bond



Bama's leading WR in 2023

Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
2257 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:42 am to
With the portal effectively being closed for all teams not going through a head coaching search (wtf), backfilling players is particularly challenging which gives these kids a unique bargaining chip, and some of them are likely jumping into the portal to see what their "market value" is with our competitors, then asking us to match it or they bounce

I can't really blame them for shopping, I see it a lot in my line of work as well. Demanding us pay them more because someone else will is not exactly good business practice though, and if that's the negotiating tactic being used I'd rather cut ties with someone that short-sighted
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:15 am to
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They are not getting good advice from all around them. Parents, friends, agents telling you are worth a shite more if you go here or there. Just not smart decisions being made, but frick'em. You live and you learn.


Some of them are, some of them aren't. Bond for instance, got good advice. He's making the right decision.

But if we're gonna have transfer rules and NIL in its current form, then the logical next step is to allow them to hire agents, so they can actually get sound advice on how transferring for playing time and NIL money best benefits them. Because you're right. Uncle Joe and Mama aren't good counsel but a reputable agent is.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5720 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:18 am to
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Bond for instance, got good advice. He's making the right decision.


It makes some sense, but there was really no reason for him not to hang around through spring practice to see the new offense and where the quarterback situation will be. All the money from Texas will still be there in the spring, maybe actually more because the season would be more imminent. There was no need to rush.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56379 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Bond for instance, got good advice. He's making the right decision.


how so
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:29 am to
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Milroe didn't get the ball to him on Gravedigger? That was a perfect pass.



One of only a handful. That isn't good enough. Not even close.

This is your reason for Bond to stick around but it's not a good reason for him to do it. I doubt he cares all that much about the press that came from that play or the possibility of a Daniel Moore painting.

When faced with the known and the unknown, you go with what you know.

Bond did the right thing transferring. Every decision is a risk but Bond's decision to transfer was rationally calculated. He's a professional football player. There's lots of money involved and based on what's actually known at this point in time. He'll show out better at Texas and likely improve his draft stock. And never mind that in the short-term he probably got a pretty significant raise.

Bond is in a no lose situation here. He did the right thing.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13135 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:34 am to
Maybe not. What if he does get more passes thrown his way and he still plods around? He then proves that it wasn't all Milroe and his draft stock will fall.

He gets paid now and that is 95% of why he is gone.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:35 am to
quote:

quote:
Bond for instance, got good advice. He's making the right decision.


how so


See above.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56379 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:37 am to
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He'll show out better at Texas and likely improve his draft stock.





UT's leading WR in 2023



Isaiah Bond



Bama's leading WR in 2023






looks to me like he'll likely be about the same.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:38 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:41 am to
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Maybe not. What if he does get more passes thrown his way and he still plods around? He then proves that it wasn't all Milroe and his draft stock will fall.

He gets paid now and that is 95% of why he is gone.





These decisions aren't made based on "what if". They're made based on what's known versus what's unknown. There's alot of unknown at Alabama and very little of it at Texas.

Have you ever quit a job for one that appears better on paper? Well that's what Bond did. It's a rational, calculated risk with little, if any downside.

No risk, no reward. Based on what's known and not on what if, Bond made the smart decision.

He made the decision a professional would make. I applaud it.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 10:43 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56379 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:49 am to
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These decisions aren't made based on "what if". They're made based on what's known versus what's unknown. There's alot of unknown at Alabama and very little of it at Texas.




I know that Bama just got a coach that was a former WR, and just had a WR last season that put up 1,600 yards, and that the leading WR for UT last season had under 900 yards receiving.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 10:57 am to
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I know that Bama just got a coach that was a former WR, and just had a WR last season that put up 1,600 yards, and that the leading WR for UT last season had under 900 yards receiving.


Everything about the Alabama coaching staff could flounder, klutz around and frick up the entire upcoming season. That possibility is in the ballpark. Not the parking lot but the actual ballpark.

If you were a professional football player and make no mistake about it, that's what Bond is. Would you really hedge your bets in the direction of Alabama? Honestly, would you? Or would you try to make the best decision you could based on what's actually known?

This is a very smart, calculated risk on his part with little, if any downside.
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