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re: What type of performance on Saturday would regain your trust?

Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:31 am to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:31 am to
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I don't get it.


Ditto. The last time BAMA got its arse kicked was by Clemson.

It's BAMA fatigue. The same idiots have been predicting BAMA's demise since Saban lost to Ole Miss.
It's what they WANT to happen. So they can be right. That's what all this shite is about. So they can say, "See, I told you so."

And it has infected our fanbase.

OK. Let's fire Wommack. frick it. Fire DeBoer too for being so stupid as to hire him.
Then what? Who do you want to hire??
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 11:35 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19571 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:33 am to
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Why do people call a one score loss an arse-kicking? It's been happening for years. I feel like it started with the Ohio State loss in 2014. We lost by a touchdown but I kept hearing people say Ohio State kicked our arse. I don't get it.


Here's why.

Because at no point in the game did Alabama control it or have the lead. It was an arse beating and the boxscore reflects the scoreboard. Also there was nothing flukey about it, and that includes the pick six,. shite happens and three of those shouldn't cost Alabama a game against Vanderbilt.

Actually I'll say it this way. The only flukey part of the game is that it wasn't flukey at all. The Vanderbilt Commodores, a garbage football team straight up beat that number one ranked Alabama arse. This loss is utterly abhorrent.

And yes, Vanderbilt is a garbage team. They're not good at all, and as their schedule unfolds we'll all see that. They've got at least five more losses on deck. And with each Vandy loss, we'll lose any fantasy that this year Vanderbilt is punching above their weight class.

This loss says jackshit about the Vanderbilt Commodores, but it says some really bad shite about Alabama. There's something seriously wrong with this football team.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 11:37 am
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7669 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:38 am to
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The only flukey part of the game is that it wasn't flukey


This is just statistically untrue.

How many times in a row are you supposed to beat a team before they beat you?

Again, almost every team in the SEC has taken an L to Vandy in the last 20 years.

This happens across EVERY sport at EVERY level.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7669 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:50 am to
Ever heard of Phillip Humber? He was a journeyman pitcher. Pitched for 5 or 6 teams in his career. League minimum kind of guy.

Life time stats
16-23 W/L record.
5.31 lifetime ERA.

He never did anything notable at any level in his entire career.

But on 21 April 2012 he got 27 consecutive outs making him just 1 of 24 guys to ever throw a perfect game in the major leagues in over 100 years of playing. It was his 30th career start. Nothing in his pedigree suggests he was capable of this. 18 months later he was pitching in Korea. Where he didn't pitch any better. 2016 he's out of baseball at the age of 34.

Vandy pitched a perfect game vs BAMA. Some of you are just too stupid to realize what you saw.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
3837 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:57 am to
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Here's why.

Because at no point in the game did Alabama control it or have the lead. It was an arse beating and the boxscore reflects the scoreboard. Also there was nothing flukey about it, and that includes the pick six,. shite happens and three of those shouldn't cost Alabama a game against Vanderbilt.

Actually I'll say it this way. The only flukey part of the game is that it wasn't flukey at all. The Vanderbilt Commodores, a garbage football team straight up beat that number one ranked Alabama arse. This loss is utterly abhorrent.

And yes, Vanderbilt is a garbage team. They're not good at all, and as their schedule unfolds we'll all see that. They've got at least five more losses on deck. And with each Vandy loss, we'll lose any fantasy that this year Vanderbilt is punching above their weight class.

This loss says jackshit about the Vanderbilt Commodores, but it says some really bad shite about Alabama. There's something seriously wrong with this football team.


You could have just said you don't know what an arse-kicking is and left it at that.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19571 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 11:57 am to
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This is just statistically untrue.

How many times in a row are you supposed to beat a team before they beat you?

Again, almost every team in the SEC has taken an L to Vandy in the last 20 years.

This happens across EVERY sport at EVERY level.


You should have the stones to quote my entire post.

The number one ranked Alabama Crimson Tide lost to a bad Vanderbilt football team, a really bad team and time will bear this out.

And this wasn't an Alabama team that didn't have it's starting quarterback, or an Alabama team that just fired its headcoach, or an Alabama team ravaged by sanctions and recruiting limits, or an Alabama team that was playing its entire second and third string, or an Alabama team that was eaten up with injuries.

This was an an Alabama team who had just beaten the best team in the country. An Alabama team that has a Heisman finalist under center. An Alabama team that has a headcoach who only months ago, played for a national championship. An Alabama team that went into this game with no significant injuries. An Alabama team that legitimately should be able to beat a team like Vanderbilt by double digits with their second string.

This loss isn't some sort of statistical inevitability. For this Alabama team to lose to that Vanderbilt team, something has to be seriously wrong.

To answer your question. Vanderbilt should never beat an Alabama team like this one. Never.

This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 11:59 am
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3423 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 12:05 pm to
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OK. Let's fire Wommack. frick it. Fire DeBoer too for being so stupid as to hire him.
Then what? Who do you want to hire??


If I had been fired when I fricked up at a new job. I'd never have a job.

If had fired people for fricking up early in their tenure, I'd never have any good employees.

These coaches are 5 games into their first season. They are still learning what it's like to coach in the most powerful conference in college athletics. I'm gonna roll with them through the wins and losses. If I see them making the same mistakes at the end of year 2, I may take step closer to the edge.

All that said, I would like to see the coaches reel in some of the behavior we've seen out of the players.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7669 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 12:06 pm to
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This loss isn't some sort of statistical inevitability.


Yes. That's exactly what it is. I remember Saban having a streak of over 100 straight wins vs non-ranked opponents end at home.

Streaks end. It is inevitable. All streaks end. This streak was more about Vandy than it was BAMA.
They'd never beaten a Top5 team. How many teams do you think have gone 60 games without beating a top5 team? It's especially peculiar Vandy went that long because they've had so many chances. Wollow in your own misery if you want. IDGAF.

But between this being a statistical anamoly and the death of Alabama Football, it seems pretty obvious which one this is.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8990 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 12:14 pm to
It’s always been more about what happens after the loss than the loss itself. Just win, baby.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1973 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 12:58 pm to
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The number one ranked Alabama Crimson Tide lost to a bad Vanderbilt football team, a really bad team and time will bear this out.


Vandy is 9 points from being undefeated lol. You act like this is a typical Vanderbilt team. They beat VaTech and went to OT with Missouri. Losing to Georgia State is bad but sometimes the lesser team wins just like we saw last weekend.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9639 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:09 pm to
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The number one ranked Alabama Crimson Tide lost to a bad Vanderbilt football team, a really bad team and time will bear this out.


I'm going to strongly disagree with this statement. While there is never an excuse for Alabama to lose to Vanderbilt, this ain't your daddy's Vanderbilt. Yes, they lost to Georgia State, but they also beat Virginia Tech and should have beaten Missouri. They're not going to win the SEC or anything like that, but we won't be their only conference win this year. Not by a long shot.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19571 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:37 pm to
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I'm going to strongly disagree with this statement. While there is never an excuse for Alabama to lose to Vanderbilt, this ain't your daddy's Vanderbilt. Yes, they lost to Georgia State, but they also beat Virginia Tech and should have beaten Missouri. They're not going to win the SEC or anything like that, but we won't be their only conference win this year. Not by a long shot.


I hope you're right, but you're probably not. Vanderbilt is closer to 4-8 or 5-7 than 6-6.

This team is alot closer to being "my daddy's Vanderbilt" than it is to being this scrappy giant killer folks on this board are hoping and praying for.

Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
932 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 1:40 pm to
Would have to run the table the rest of the regular season to regain my trust.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6041 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 2:18 pm to
Georgia State agrees
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19571 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Vandy is 9 points from being undefeated lol. You act like this is a typical Vanderbilt team. They beat VaTech and went to OT with Missouri. Losing to Georgia State is bad but sometimes the lesser team wins just like we saw last weekend.


This is a "typical Vanderbilt team" and that's what makes this loss so profoundly fricked up. When Kentucky beats them this weekend (they're a 12 point favorite) the reality of this most salient truth will begin to take hold, and with each consecutive conference loss, this fantasy that Vanderbilt is a good team will crumble.

After the Ball State reprieve, they have Texas, then Auburn at their place. They might squeeze out a win against South Carolina but with their defense, I wouldn't bet on it. They're sure as shite not losing though to LSU and Tennessee.

Vanderbilt drops Kentucky, Texas, Auburn, LSU and Tennessee.

At the very least, this is a 5-7 team.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
1973 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:24 pm to
This is no typical Vanderbilt team. Vandy QBs are never this athletic and aware on the field…not since Cutler. Kentucky beating them would be no shock because they currently have the best defense in the SEC the way they have been playing. I can see Vandy upsetting LSU and Auburn (if you call that an upset). LSU’s defense is pretty bad. The only thing is Vandy’s offense will be taken seriously now. At the end of the day, we all knew Bama wouldn’t be an 11-win team forever. It might be hard for you to understand that, but some of us watched the teams that played under the three Mikes and Franchione. The NIL and transfer portal makes it difficult for even the best to coach correctly now. That’s part of why Saban got out.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted by bamafan1953
Member since Jul 2020
731 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:47 pm to
And quit their excessive jawig and thuggish behavior after plays. "Win with class, lose with class."
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7878 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:48 pm to
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And quit their excessive jawig and thuggish behavior after plays. "Win with class, lose with class."


This would be the sign that the Vandy loss actually humbled them some.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
19571 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

This is no typical Vanderbilt team. Vandy QBs are never this athletic and aware on the field…not since Cutler. Kentucky beating them would be no shock because they currently have the best defense in the SEC the way they have been playing. I can see Vandy upsetting LSU and Auburn (if you call that an upset). LSU’s defense is pretty bad. The only thing is Vandy’s offense will be taken seriously now. At the end of the day, we all knew Bama wouldn’t be an 11-win team forever. It might be hard for you to understand that, but some of us watched the teams that played under the three Mikes and Franchione. The NIL and transfer portal makes it difficult for even the best to coach correctly now. That’s part of why Saban got out.


Ok then.

Bookmark the thread, I'll do the same. If you're right, bump it. If I'm right, I'll bump it.

I've got Vanderbilt going 5-7 at best. Shoot your shot. Predict their record.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
15134 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 3:56 pm to
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