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Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:54 am to MagillaGuerilla
An elite offensive line
Smith, Waddle, Metchie, etc. at WR
Najee, Sanders, Robinson, Keilan potentially at RB
That's a pretty scary offense to put around whoever is the QB.
And I'm opting out of the QB wars (I suspect it will be Mac, and I'm fine with whoever wins the job), but if you were going to start a true freshman QB that's what you'd want around him.
Smith, Waddle, Metchie, etc. at WR
Najee, Sanders, Robinson, Keilan potentially at RB
That's a pretty scary offense to put around whoever is the QB.
And I'm opting out of the QB wars (I suspect it will be Mac, and I'm fine with whoever wins the job), but if you were going to start a true freshman QB that's what you'd want around him.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:57 am to Crede15
RUN THE BALL!
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:01 am to Crede15
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but if you were going to start a true freshman QB that's what you'd want around him.
It's about as perfect a set up as you could think of.......
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:23 am to SummerOfGeorge
In the best-case scenario, if Bryce Young is all that, I can't see Sark/Saban giving in again to the Locksley experiment and going strictly RPO.
Young will have to come in and learn a full read offense with traditional elements of the RPO spread. Mac is going into his 4th year and has a very good arm and a seasoned brain for all these concepts. It's not who runs the fastest, it's which guys can execute and master what we want to see in our identity. Mac Jones has a huge edge.
Young will have to come in and learn a full read offense with traditional elements of the RPO spread. Mac is going into his 4th year and has a very good arm and a seasoned brain for all these concepts. It's not who runs the fastest, it's which guys can execute and master what we want to see in our identity. Mac Jones has a huge edge.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:24 am to bamameister
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Young will have to come in and learn a full read offense with traditional elements of the RPO spread
Per everything I've read from football people out West who know him and know that area, he's the most mentally impressive QB they've ever seen.
And they've seen 25+ NFL QBs in high school.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:25 am to bamameister
Sorry, wrong thread. I've pour another cup of coffee, it should get better.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Per everything I've read from football people out West who know him and know that area, he's the most mentally impressive QB they've ever seen.
And they've seen 25+ NFL QBs in high school.
Yeah, I've actually read that his coach said that. Did that coach actually run a full read offense with Bryce? If not, spring ball should be a real awakening, smarts and all. It takes a lot of muscle memory to get instinctive with it.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:34 am to bamameister
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Did that coach actually run a full read offense with Bryce? If not, spring ball should be a real awakening, smarts and all. It takes a lot of muscle memory to get instinctive with it.
Not only did they run a full read offense, but Mater Dei let Young basically call the entire offense at the LOS. He said it's the first time in his career he's had enough faith in a QB to do that (he coached Leinart and Barkley).
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
Hopefully Young lives up to the hype
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Not only did they run a full read offense, but Mater Dei let Young basically call the entire offense at the LOS. He said it's the first time in his career he's had enough faith in a QB to do that (he coached Leinart and Barkley).
That's encouraging. It's really impossible for the offense to stay special the whole season reading half the field.
I thought we were running elements of that during Daboll's time. Tua was executing his offense through the air better than Jalen as a true freshman. I thought the criticism Tua received under Locksley about locking in was mostly because that was the tools that Tua was handed that season. Nothing more. This season covering our WRs and running backs was a nightmare.
Frankly, that's the same nightmare we are now witnessing with LSU. They aren't doing this stuff with superior talent. They have West Coast elements mixed in with their RPO packages. I haven't seen a defense yet that has broken the code on their offensive schemes. Brent Venable has got 2 weeks to try and be the first.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Per everything I've read from football people out West who know him and know that area, he's the most mentally impressive QB they've ever seen.
And they've seen 25+ NFL QBs in high school.
Blake Barnett says hello.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:59 am to 3down10
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Blake Barnett says hello.
Blake Barnett wasn't nearly as universally praised as a prospect as Young is.
With that said, Young will have to prove he is what everyone says he is at the college level. He's stepping into a perfect situation, though. Offense has veterans everywhere, he isn't under pressure to show up and be the guy, etc.
The QB room is a great situation to have for him and for us.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
We know Mac is good so if Young beats him out we know he is the real deal. If he doesn’t well we already know Mac is legit.
So basically we set on offense no matter who wins QB. I don’t expect any drop off at all honestly
So basically we set on offense no matter who wins QB. I don’t expect any drop off at all honestly
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:03 am to mistaken4193
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Blake Barnett wasn't nearly as universally praised as a prospect as Young is.
With that said, Young will have to prove he is what everyone says he is at the college level. He's stepping into a perfect situation, though. Offense has veterans everywhere, he isn't under pressure to show up and be the guy, etc.
The QB room is a great situation to have for him and for us.
He was the #1 dual threat QB that year and was the MVP at the elite 11.
His freshman year all we heard was how good he was. People talking about how he should be starting over Coker. etc.
Seems pretty similar to me. Hopefully he works out more like Tua(who btw didn't start his freshman year either) and less like Blake, but that remains to be seen. Amazing to me is how quickly the fan base falls into the same mistakes.
The only QB to start as a true freshman was Hurts, and he wasn't even a 5 star IIRC. Which really goes to show it's about maturity more than skill set it seems.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:05 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Blake Barnett wasn't nearly as universally praised as a prospect as Young is.
Saint deserves credit for never falling for the Barnett hype. He was never wild about getting him.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:07 am to 3down10
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The only QB to start as a true freshman was Hurts, and he wasn't even a 5 star IIRC. Which really goes to show it's about maturity more than skill set it seems.
Which is the only reason anybody thinks Young even has a shot at playing, his maturity and advanced mental situation.
I have no idea if he does or not. I'm just glad that if he does end up playing it will be because he is out of this world, because Mac has proven he's a damn solid QB and it will take something really spectacular to take that away from him.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:08 am to Cobrasize
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Saint deserves credit for never falling for the Barnett hype. He was never wild about getting him.
Negated for his obsession with Hackenberg
Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Which is the only reason anybody thinks Young even has a shot at playing, his maturity and advanced mental situation.
I have no idea if he does or not. I'm just glad that if he does end up playing it will be because he is out of this world, because Mac has proven he's a damn solid QB and it will take something really spectacular to take that away from him.
I agree about the Mac part in the 2nd paragraph. I will be shocked if Mac doesn't start next year, and if he doesn't, then it must be for damn good reason.
I do not listen to the hype people claim about recruits anymore. They run basically the same templates on players year after year.
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