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Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:25 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:25 pm to
It even took Pearl a little while this last season to get things ironed out. Oates needs to get his guys in and then we should be ok. It's a good sign that so many guys decided to stay instead of transferring
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
30289 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:29 pm to
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Hall was a true rim protector but he suffered as well from players bullying him in the paint for good position and our perimeter defense was never up to the task of making those entry passes tough. 


If anyone ever got Donta posted up you might as well gave them 2 points right there. Deneen Cheated Donta Hall out of possibly being drafted.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8437 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:43 pm to
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we've got a real problem at center, and for the life of me, I can't see a fix...


The fix is that we will have guards pressing the ball both defensively, and in transition.

We might get beat in half court sets, but I don't see us playing half court basketball.

It's uptempo. As Oats has proven over the last 2 years to be his coaching style.

#1: Good luck chasing down guards in transition with your over-sized lineup. (Offensively and defensively)

#2: If we are using half court sets some, imo it will come as secondary breaks with more 3 point shot attempts.

As we've witnessed painfully over the past season, long shots= long rebounds. In this scenario I'll take an athletic 6'6 forward over a slow, unathletic big anyday for this kid of scheme.

I think coach Oats knows what he's doing. I'm not worried about not having lumbering 6'10s that cant run the floor or post up. We basically made the Ncaas with Hall being the only threat and that was mostly because of Sexton...
Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:54 pm to
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real problem at center


To me the biggest problem is ball handling. Gotta have at least three but four is preferable. Right now we have two and a freshman.

We have enough bodies at the 5 spot and they all offer something unique. Not going to be a strength, but we shouldn’t need it to be.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9363 posts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:37 pm to
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To me the biggest problem is ball handling. Gotta have at least three but four is preferable. Right now we have two and a freshman.

We have enough bodies at the 5 spot and they all offer something unique. Not going to be a strength, but we shouldn’t need it to be.


That's a really good point. I'd said on the last page that on the ball pressure was our biggest issue last year but ball handling has to be up there too.

Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 8:43 pm to

A strength of the team should be three point shooting, Lewis, Petty, Reese, Bolden, and Rojas all are good shooters. Shackleford and Forbes should be good shooters too, but it's hard to know how they will play as freshmen.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:44 am to
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To me the biggest problem is ball handling. Gotta have at least three but four is preferable. Right now we have two and a freshman.

We have enough bodies at the 5 spot and they all offer something unique. Not going to be a strength, but we shouldn’t need it to be.



Agree with this.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:03 am to
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To me the biggest problem is ball handling. Gotta have at least three but four is preferable. Right now we have two and a freshman.



I do think it’s a problem, but that was even a bigger problem last year when all we had was a freshman that could handle the ball without (constantly) turning it over. Should at least be better this year.

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We have enough bodies at the 5 spot and they all offer something unique. Not going to be a strength, but we shouldn’t need it to be


The problem isn’t the number of bodies, but the fact that not one of them has proven themselves as even an average rotation player defensively or as a rebounder. Smith isn’t a terrible post defender, but is absolutely terrible on the boards and provides no rim protection. Reese is not a good defender and can’t rebound. Fleming didn’t play last year when those 2 guys were our backups and Hawkins is a freshman we don’t know too much about.

With as fast as we want to play, the fact that we don’t have a proven rebounder or rim protector scares me.
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
31532 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:58 am to
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Sources: Oregon, Houston, and Clemson have all emerged as potential landing spots for Alabama grad transfer Tevin Mack. Averaged 9.0 PPG and 3.3 RPG last season. Immediately eligible.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:23 am to
I bet he goes to Clemson.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:29 am to
I'm gone to Oregon if that decision is up to me. Good coach, decent program tradition, and on the west coast. But everything says he's gone to Clemtech.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 8:30 am
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:03 am to
Anywhere other than Clemson would be a bit of a surprise.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31041 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:30 am to
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I think coach Oats knows what he's doing
It's not a matter of him knowing what he's doing...I'm confident he does...it's a matter of not having the talent in that area of the game. We'll see a number of teams who have good guard play, AND a couple of big, bangers down low and if they have their way in there, it's gonna be a long night!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31041 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:35 am to
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quote:
We have enough bodies at the 5 spot and they all offer something unique. Not going to be a strength, but we shouldn’t need it to be


The problem isn’t the number of bodies, but the fact that not one of them has proven themselves as even an average rotation player defensively or as a rebounder. Smith isn’t a terrible post defender, but is absolutely terrible on the boards and provides no rim protection. Reese is not a good defender and can’t rebound. Fleming didn’t play last year when those 2 guys were our backups and Hawkins is a freshman we don’t know too much about.

With as fast as we want to play, the fact that we don’t have a proven rebounder or rim protector scares me.
Again, this is exactly right. Without one, the other team can control the tempo of the game. It's hard to get out on fast breaks is you're constantly having to inbounds the ball
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26498 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:31 am to
Getting in the gym, working, getting stronger, actually being coached up and being in better condition can help to some extent.

These guys puking and about to die after a session with the new staff was a real eye opener for me. What the hell were they doing under Avery all walk throughs?
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:56 am to
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Over the past several months, Deivon Smith has emerged as one of the top point guards in the 2020 class out of Georgia. He’s collected offers from schools all over the country, including Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, Oregon and several more.

As we head into the summer before his senior year, Louisville appears to be in a great spot for the four-star prospect. Chris Mack offered Smith a scholarship back in March and has built a strong relationship in the last couple months. Before the Cardinals surged to the front, Alabama had been the leader because of Avery Johnson and how he handled Collin Sexton. Nate Oats still has the Crimson Tide as one of Smith's top schools, but not quite as strong as they were a couple months ago. Miami is the other school sitting in a good spot right now because of Jim Larranaga’s recent run of quality point guards.

Georgia was one of the first high-major schools to offer Smith, but the Bulldogs have some work to do to catch up here. Xavier has been prominently mentioned with Smith, but it’s hard to see him ending up there with his Atlanta Celtics teammate Dwon Odom committed there, given they both want to be point guards at the next level. One school to keep an eye on going forward is LSU. With Will Wade’s situation appearing to be a little more settled, the Tigers could be a real player here because of the way Wade used Tremont Waters.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:59 am to






Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18095 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 11:25 am to
He’ll have to play defense if he goes there.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13465 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 1:05 pm to
Man i need some video smh
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 2:34 pm to
Reese looks like he’s lost 15-20 already
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