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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:46 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:46 pm to East Coast Band
Yep. Only way I see him coming here is if LSU fires Wade before his commitment. Memphis has been hosting other players for visits like they know he’s gone to LSU. So if Memphis takes someone in his place and then Wade is fired at LSU, maybe we could get him. But I don’t see it happening. And honestly at this point, I don’t care. If he doesn’t want to be here THAT bad, then I really don’t want him. He would be a nice player to have, but he might have the attitude of Dazon if he’s forced to play somewhere he doesn’t wanna be
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:28 am to Bamafan18
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Just realized Jalen Green is also the #2 overall player in the class of 2020. If we landed him, he’d be our best recruit ever wouldn’t he?? I’m sure someone like Duke or UNC will end up getting him, but it’s cool to think about
People always mention UNC in these things, as they're a blueblood school. But they really don't sign many top 10 guys (Cole Anthony this year being an exception).
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:52 am to Caplewood
So some Bama fans have a problem with Nate Oats offering too many good players, is this real life? If some people don’t have something to complain about they will straight up invent something.
You have better odds get a 5 star player if you recruit 10 of them instead of one. Plus he is offering kids from 2020 -2022 so its not like all are in one class.
I love that he is recruiting so hard personally, I see no negative in offering a lot of good players.
You have better odds get a 5 star player if you recruit 10 of them instead of one. Plus he is offering kids from 2020 -2022 so its not like all are in one class.
I love that he is recruiting so hard personally, I see no negative in offering a lot of good players.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 8:10 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:57 am to CrimsonFever
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So some Bama fans have a problem with Nate Oats offering too many good players, is this real life? If some people don’t have something to complain about they will straight up invent something.
I think they're just setting the precedent to be able to say, "See we should have gone after all those 3*'s!" if we strike out. The scared of failure types.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 8:10 am to Teague
I guess.
“Don’t get excited we are recruiting so many good players cause we might not get any of them. Don’t confuse offering good players with getting them.”
That’s some weird arse/negative reasoning.
I am excited we are recruiting good players, the more we recruit the more we are likely to get. Also excited by how hard the staff is working, they are gonna demand this same work ethic out of our players.
Work ethic is something thats been missing in out Bball program for a while now.
“Don’t get excited we are recruiting so many good players cause we might not get any of them. Don’t confuse offering good players with getting them.”
That’s some weird arse/negative reasoning.
I am excited we are recruiting good players, the more we recruit the more we are likely to get. Also excited by how hard the staff is working, they are gonna demand this same work ethic out of our players.
Work ethic is something thats been missing in out Bball program for a while now.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 8:34 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 9:10 am to Teague
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I think they're just setting the precedent to be able to say, "See we should have gone after all those 3*'s!" if we strike out. The scared of failure types.
This was a popular attitude during the Grant era when he would inevitably finish 2nd for the majority of his top targets every year. A lot of people just seem to think that "he wants to be here" and "coach em up" can somehow make up for the fact that if they got their way we'd have a mid-major roster playing a power conference schedule. You may end up with a decent team once every 3 or 4 years when you have a senior heavy lineup, but for the most part you'd be getting smoked during conference play.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:20 am to Robot Santa
I was under the impression thats we played with mostly 3 stars the whole Grant era and that it didn’t work.
Grant wasnt out recruiting near this hard.
Lets calm down on the PTSD from Grant and enjoy that our new coach and staff have hit the ground running and are working insanely hard to get us great players.
I know I am enjoying it.
Grant wasnt out recruiting near this hard.
Lets calm down on the PTSD from Grant and enjoy that our new coach and staff have hit the ground running and are working insanely hard to get us great players.
I know I am enjoying it.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/25/19 at 10:35 am to CrimsonFever
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I was under the impression thats we played with mostly 3 stars the whole Grant era and that it didn’t work. Grant wasnt out recruiting near this hard. Lets calm down on the PTSD from Grant and enjoy that our new coach and staff have hit the ground running and are working insanely hard to get us great players. I know I am enjoying it.
Anthony Grant worked very hard at recruiting, but was completely unwilling to play the game. He specialized in finishing second. He was pretty unfortunate in the recruiting game and this was further worsened by the fact that he didn’t recruit many plan B options because he didn’t want to over-recruit his available roster slots and kick any of his current guys off the team. Anthony Grant was literally too nice of a guy to succeed in recruiting.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 11:23 am to BigBird09
I did not mean to down vote that opinion. I hit the wrong button. I have been of the same opinion as regards coach Grant. I thought he was a very good person who was not suited for the hurly burly of top tier basketball recruiting.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:39 pm to BigBird09
Grant has as much personality as a 2x4, I don't see how he was ever a good recruiter at Florida, I assume the reason was kids wanted to come play for Donovan because they were having success there. He was not a good hire.
Grant and Oats are two different people, I don't get why we people are comparing Oats to Anthony Grant at all.
Grant and Oats are two different people, I don't get why we people are comparing Oats to Anthony Grant at all.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:53 pm to CrimsonFever
I don't know who Matt Norlander is, but he isn't dropping some news about the wiretap stuff on twitter
Twitter
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:55 pm to Cobrasize
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Christian Dawkins, who was in the Vegas hotel room caught on video wiretap, discussing Zion recruitment: "Duke is gonna have their resources. UNC is UNC. Kentucky is gonna have their resources."
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Under oath, Marty Blazer said he understood Dawkins to be saying: "Duke, UNC and Kentucky will have people in place to pay whatever's necessary for Zion Williamson. Whatever Zion Williamson's family needed, we would be able to step in and [help with money] if it was close."
Dickie V is is on life support
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:08 pm to Cobrasize
Popcorn
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:09 pm to Cobrasize
Clemson Football got named too today.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:18 pm to mistaken4193
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Other coaches from Arizona St (Anthony Coleman), Clemson (Steve Smith), UConn (Raphael Chillious), Texas A&M (Amir Abdur-Rahim) met w/ Dawkins, Blazer and undercover agents, but didn't receive $ b/c they weren't consider worthy enough yet, i.e. they didn't have pull w/ prospects
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Yasir Rosemond, then at Alabama, is in this group as well. "Whatever you need me to do, I'll do it" and "Alabama actually got shite in place too" in relation to need "resources" to land recruits. Again, this in July of 2017.
Yeah, we know Ya didnt have enough pullThis post was edited on 4/25/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:27 pm to CrimsonFever
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I was under the impression thats we played with mostly 3 stars the whole Grant era and that it didn’t work.
Grant wasnt out recruiting near this hard.
Grant signed mostly 3* and 4* players with a couple of borderline 4/5* guys mixed in. He recruited hard, but always ended up losing out on kids he invested a lot of time and energy into.
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Lets calm down on the PTSD from Grant and enjoy that our new coach and staff have hit the ground running and are working insanely hard to get us great players
How does pointing out that people often stated they wished we had just signed [mid-major recruit from Alabama] instead of going for legitimate power conference caliber players "because we ain't never gonna beat out a basketball school for those kids" suggest I have PTSD from the Grant era?
I have no problem with the recruiting strategy Oats seems to be employing. Signing kids you know will never get a better offer and "coaching em up" is lazy and a good way of finding yourself unemployed in 2 or 3 years.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:29 pm to CrimsonFever
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Grant and Oats are two different people, I don't get why we people are comparing Oats to Anthony Grant at all.
You’re creating an argument out of thin air. No one is even suggesting this. No one even thinks it’s a bad thing to offer all these guys. Only thing that’s been pointed out is offering and landing a kid are 2 different things. I think Oats will be a great recruiter here, but labeling him as a recruiting savant after these offers are premature.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:13 pm to BigBird09
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You’re creating an argument out of thin air. No one is even suggesting this. No one even thinks it’s a bad thing to offer all these guys.
This.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:38 pm to BigBird09
I was responding to posts like these from at least 3 different people in here, who were responding to people who made positive posts about how hard Oats is working.
We are celebrating the fact that he hit the ground running in his first couple of weeks, and all the offers and going out and visiting players is a part of that.
Sorry about being excited. I will curb my enthusiasm until we miss out on some 2020 players in recruiting.
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Grant was offering high star kids and missing. I'm all for CNO offering top 25 kids, but why the frick are we celebrating for each one and getting hyped about it? You don't see the guys in the football recruiting thread getting excited every time a top player gets an offer from us. The thing that we should care about is if CNO can actually seal the deal or if we are just wasting time chasing kids who haven't had and won't have real interest in us.
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Glad he is offering these kids but don't confuse activity with achievement.
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I love that Oats is making these offers... but for real they mean almost nothing. There is no penalty to offering every kid in the top 100 other than looking desperate.
We are celebrating the fact that he hit the ground running in his first couple of weeks, and all the offers and going out and visiting players is a part of that.
Sorry about being excited. I will curb my enthusiasm until we miss out on some 2020 players in recruiting.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 5:24 pm to CrimsonFever
As an expert, I'm here to explain that offering recruits isn't the same as signing them. I feel like you need me to explain that.
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