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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
What do you think about the same poster saying mack was a poor 3P shooter at 36% for his career?
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Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:32 pm to CrimsonFever
Well. Good thing we have Fever to inform us all that bottom 5% three point shooting is pretty darned good and that the rest of us don't know crap about basketball. 
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:33 pm to CrimsonFever
To settle the statistical part of the argument, Clowney shot 28.3% from 3pt range. For all NCAA men's players that attempted three pointers outside of the end of the shot clock or end of the half shot, he was ranked 1818 out of 2298.
I have not idea what his shooting was prior vs after the Miles stuff. I would have to think it was better prior like most of the team.
Didn't know SOG had posted when I sent this.
I have not idea what his shooting was prior vs after the Miles stuff. I would have to think it was better prior like most of the team.
Didn't know SOG had posted when I sent this.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:34 pm to LovetheLord
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Good thing we have Fever to inform us all that 5% three point shooting is pretty darned good .
You just focus on tuning in to games on the right days.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:35 pm to CrimsonFever
I think Mack looks very similar to a Noah Gurley style pickup. I think he's an adequate 3PT shooter whose % will likely drop playing the SEC and who could be a nice role player if he has solid leadership skills. He's not a poor 3PT shooter. Wouldn't be upset if he picked us but I think there's a chance he isn't quick enough to get his own shot from the wing and not strong enough to get his own shot down low. Hopefully he is.
I think Walton is a grand slam pickup, really hope he can play next year.
I think Walton is a grand slam pickup, really hope he can play next year.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:36 pm to CrimsonFever
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He wasn't shitty, but that's not what he said he said he is one of the worst 3 point shooters in the country. You're as clueless about basketball as he is, congratulations. Probably an alter of the same guy.
From what SOG posted on Clowney 3pt shooting % looks like you should apologize for being a dickhead.
Looks like the only one that doesn’t know shite about basketball is you Mr BOG
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I really like Mack's physicality and ability to post up players. We haven't had a lot of that for a while. Should be a good addition.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:38 pm to DT55Forever1
There was a solid month of the season where Clowney shot over 40% from three and thats when he started showing up in the first round of mocks. He did fall off a cliff later in the year but he has shown enough potential to be drafted in the first round.
He is definitely not a bad shooter for a 6’10 power forward. He would be considered a good shooter compared to most power forwards, which is one reason he is a first rounder as a true freshman.
He is definitely not a bad shooter for a 6’10 power forward. He would be considered a good shooter compared to most power forwards, which is one reason he is a first rounder as a true freshman.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:39 pm to LovetheLord
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I really like Mack's physicality and ability to post up players. We haven't had a lot of that for a while. Should be a good addition.
I like adding that into our style of play. I hope Mack is good enough to do it at an elite level. Either way, I think it is important to implement a post up/short jumper (inside 5 feet) element to our offense that we currently don't do much. Seems like Oats may feel the same way. Encouraging.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You talking about like a runner/tear drop?
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:40 pm to CrimsonFever
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There was a solid month of the season where Clowney shot over 40% from three and thats when he started showing up in the first round of mocks. He did fall off a cliff later in the year but he has shown enough potential to be drafted in the first round.
He is definitely not a bad shooter for a 6’10 power forward. He would be considered a good shooter compared to most power forwards, which is one reason he is a first rounder as a true freshman.
He has a very high ceiling as a shooter, especially for a big. He also didn't shoot it great for us over most of the season, but also shot it at a higher volume than he probably will in the NBA.
If he stayed for his Sophomore year I'd expect his shot to be more consistent here, just like I expect it will in the NBA. He was pretty raw, which is why he's so highly coveted in the NBA.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:40 pm to hwyman108
Yeah i wonder how many guards were in those stats SOG posted.
Clowney is a 6’10 PF compare him against other power forwards shooting percentages and don't cherry pick attempts per game, of course most power forwards and centers dont attempt many threes per game cause not many of them can shoot at all.
The guy didn't say Clowney is one of the worst shooters among guys that attempt 3 or however many per game he said he is one of the worst shooters period which is idiotic.
Clowney is a 6’10 PF compare him against other power forwards shooting percentages and don't cherry pick attempts per game, of course most power forwards and centers dont attempt many threes per game cause not many of them can shoot at all.
The guy didn't say Clowney is one of the worst shooters among guys that attempt 3 or however many per game he said he is one of the worst shooters period which is idiotic.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I like adding that into our style of play. I hope Mack is good enough to do it at an elite level. Either way, I think it is important to implement a post up/short jumper (inside 5 feet) element to our offense that we currently don't do much. Seems like Oats may feel the same way. Encouraging.
It's what I was saying earlier about him moving to more of a UCONN style with Sanogo. I think he sees the benefit. I like it.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:42 pm to DT55Forever1
You know, this year I saw A LOT of made fall-away jumpers from the lane.
Edit: Not us, of course.
Edit: Not us, of course.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:43 pm to LovetheLord
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You talking about like a runner/tear drop?
More so jump stopping on the drive and shooting from 5-6 feet (either using the backboard or straight on). If a guy has a runner that they trust and the staff thinks they are consistent with, then sure. But mainly jump stopping and either shooting a short shot off 2 feet or jump stopping and throwing an interior pass to a cutter/block guy (like UConn did so well).
Currently, really good and smart defenses (like SDSU) smother us up top and then just sprint to the blocks. They don't feel like they need to defend the middle portion of the floor, and because of that they are able to get back to the rim and get in front and contest shots/take charges more easily. If there is even a smidgen of concern that the opponent might jump stop, you can't just turn and sprint to the rim anymore. You have to actually defend the entire drive with knees bent and sliding, and that gives the offensive player a much better opportunity to get a defender on their hip and finish/draw a foul or make a help defender slide over, which opens up a drop off or a cutter into the lane.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:44 pm to CrimsonFever
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He is definitely not a bad shooter for a 6’10 power forward. He would be considered a good shooter compared to most power forwards, which is one reason he is a first rounder as a true freshman
I agree with you on Clowney's potential. I do think he will be a very good 3pt shooter at the next level if he's able to get the time on the court he needs. The sky's the limit for him.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:47 pm to CrimsonFever
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Clowney is a 6’10 PF compare him against other power forwards shooting percentages and don't cherry pick attempts per game, of course most power forwards and centers dont attempt many threes per game cause not many of them can shoot at all.
Players 6'9 or taller who shot at least 50 3PT
- 104 players
- Clowney #92 (bottom 11.5%)
Players 6'9 or taller who shot at least 75 3PT
- 73 players
- Clowney #68 (bottom 7%)
Clowney has massive potential that would be realized here if he stayed another year but will be realized instead in the NBA next year or soon after. But he didn't have a great shooting year here last year, size or not.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:48 pm to DT55Forever1
Clowney has so much potential. He plays with such high effort he will stay rostered for awhile even if his offensive game never materializes.
If he has a legit NBA 3P% for a PF, watch out.
If he has a legit NBA 3P% for a PF, watch out.
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Im gonna need to see some proof of that. Do 6’10 as well cause thats how tall Clowney is and do true freshmen.
This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 4/11/23 at 12:50 pm to CrimsonFever
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Im gonna need to see some proof of that.
Torvik - 3PT %, 75 or more 3PT attempts, 6'9 or taller
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Do 6’10 as well cause thats how tall Clowney is.
I mean, alrighty
Torvik - 3PT%, 75 or more 3PT attempts, 6'10 or taller
#30 out of 34
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And true freshman
Torvik - 3PT%, 75 or more 3PT attempts, 6'10 or taller, true freshman
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