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Posted on 7/14/21 at 7:34 am to Bamafan18
Just looked. I don't see him.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 7:40 am to Robot Santa
Must be a humbling experience. Like did none of the schools he listed want him?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 7:47 am to Robot Santa
In response to the midrange shot requests, Nate has said before that he doesn't discourage those shots, he just encourages more shots closer to the rim or behind the line. Primo took a decent amount of floaters if I recall correctly, and JQ took more midrange looks toward the end of the year.
Another thing about the analytical approach that people seem to be forgetting is that it's not threes, layups, or die. It's based off of statistics. People (like JQ) keep referencing Chris Paul and KD's midrange shot as a reason to hate analytics. No analytics guy is going to look at Paul or KD's midrange percentages and be like "that's a bad shot" when he sees it. Same thing with Trae's floater. If you've proven you're efficient with the shot, then a TRUE analytics guy will tell you to fire away. The three or layup mentality is a general rule for most players, not all.
Another thing about the analytical approach that people seem to be forgetting is that it's not threes, layups, or die. It's based off of statistics. People (like JQ) keep referencing Chris Paul and KD's midrange shot as a reason to hate analytics. No analytics guy is going to look at Paul or KD's midrange percentages and be like "that's a bad shot" when he sees it. Same thing with Trae's floater. If you've proven you're efficient with the shot, then a TRUE analytics guy will tell you to fire away. The three or layup mentality is a general rule for most players, not all.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 7:53 am to Tide or Die87
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Must be a humbling experience. Like did none of the schools he listed want him?
It has been reported all along that coming back was a possibility. Shack has his limitations as a player but at the end of the day he has been a ~15ppg guy in a P-6 conference two years in a row. The notion that no one other than us would want him is absurd.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:02 am to Robot Santa
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The notion that no one other than us would want him is absurd.
Yeah, from everything I've seen, both Texas Tech and OU really want him so it's not a lack of options.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:05 am to Robot Santa
247 doesnt keep their portal updated very well theu dont list Onanor or a lot of other players as being in it either.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 8:11 am to CrimsonFever
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247 doesnt keep their portal updated very well theu dont list Onanor or a lot of other players as being in it either.
Verbal Commits still has Shack in the portal, and Obanor etc. So does Torvik, where Shack now listed as # 5 best "available transfer" after they moved out Cedric Russell, who went to Ohio State, and Tareq Coburn who went to St. Johns. On Torvik, Kofi Cockburn is #1, Obanor #2 for "available" transfers. .
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:19 am to Tide or Die87
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Must be a humbling experience. Like did none of the schools he listed want him?
We've talked a lot about how the timing of Shack entering the portal wasn't ideal for us, but it really goes both ways. Had he entered the portal a month earlier, he probably would've had at least a dozen more teams reaching out to him. The longer he waited, the tighter the numbers got for everybody.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:21 am to Chadaristic
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Three-star forward Alex Anamekwe's recruitment enters high major territory
One of the top stock risers in the Lone Star State has been three-star forward Alex Anamekwe. A 6-foot-6 motored-up prospect out of McKinney (Texas) Anamekwe started out the spring season only holding offers from SMU, North Texas, and Oral Roberts. However, after eye-catching showings during the live period, high major offers from Alabama and Texas Tech have come his way.
"Most people would have been nervous to play in front of coaches but I really was not nervous," said Anamekwe. "I came in knowing I could only do the best that I possibly can and that it would be enough."
Anamekwe has only visited SMU unofficially so far. He discussed his thoughts on the visit and the programs in on him with 247Sports:
Alabama: I talked to Nate Oats. I was surprised when he called. He offered me on the spot and I did not expect it. He just explained to me how much he likes my game and how it will fit their playing style. They play the same way my high school team does, so I think they could be a good fit and I am excited to consider them."
North Texas: "Matt Brauer is a good guy. He has been following me since my sophomore year and he sees a lot in me. I think I will keep their program in my mind and consider them when I make my decision."
SMU: I took a visit there in June. The school is close to home and their campus is nice. I talk to Yaphett King a lot. He is a good guy who has a plan for me."
Texas Tech: "I talked to Talvin Hester. He talked about my game and how my versatility can help them. Defense is important to them and I think I can really contribute to that."
When discussing what he wants out of a program, Anamekwe says, "Education is what is most important. I want to be looked at as a person more than just a basketball player. I ultimately want to choose a school where I can see myself being successful."
Anamekwe is a long athlete with a strong vertical bounce who plays with an extremely high motor. He always is flying at the offensive glass for rebounds and putbacks or rising up to catch lobs. He is always active and engaged not only on the glass but on the defensive end where he can check multiple positions on the floor with his lateral mobility.
His skill offensively has come along in the past couple of years but he is a prospect who values impacting the game with his defense and rebounding.
With already a visit behind him, Tim Jankovich and the Mustangs look to be the favorite at the moment. However, Anamekwe mentioned how he plans to potentially visit Alabama and Texas Tech after the live period, which could potentially shake up some things if those respective trips go well.
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:25 am to Chadaristic
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Where Key Remaining College Basketball Transfers Could Be Heading
On the men's side, all eyes are on Kofi Cockburn, Marcus Carr, Jaden Shackelford and Kevin Obanor as they contemplate their next destination.
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Jaden Shackelford
After leading SEC champion Alabama in scoring in 2020–21, Shackelford is exploring his options in the transfer portal after withdrawing from the NBA draft before last week’s deadline. The talented wing from California has narrowed his options to Ohio State, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and returning to Alabama.
Ohio State likely took itself out of the running after landing a commitment from another shooting guard in Louisiana-Lafayette’s Cedric Russell on Sunday. The Buckeyes had a significant need at shooting guard after losing Duane Washington Jr. to the NBA, but Russell should fill that void comfortably.
That leaves three options: a pair of Big 12 programs with new head coaches in Texas Tech and Oklahoma or a return to Alabama. TTU has been extremely active in the portal since Mark Adams took over but doesn’t have a clear need for another wing scorer, given the return of Terrence Shannon Jr. and the additions of Sardaar Calhoun (Florida State) and Davion Warren (Hampton).
Oklahoma could certainly use the scoring pop Shackelford brings to round out an impressive transfer class for Porter Moser. That said, it would be quite the adjustment for Shackelford to move from Alabama’s fast-paced offense that has ranked in the top 15 nationally in tempo both years of his career to Oklahoma, where he’d be playing for a coach in Moser whose Loyola Chicago teams were among the slowest in the country.
A return to Alabama would once again give the Tide one of the best backcourts in the country, even with the departures of John Petty, Herbert Jones and Joshua Primo for the pro ranks. Nate Oats’s team brings back Jahvon Quinerly and Keon Ellis, and adds five-star PG JD Davison and former five-star Nimari Burnett, a transfer from Texas Tech.
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:27 am to Chadaristic
Goodman thinks Cockburn goes back to Illinois.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:30 am to Chadaristic
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Five-star CG Anthony Black updates his recruitment after an explosive June
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Will somebody with 247 let us know if we are mentioned?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:36 am to Chadaristic
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I’m no draft expert, but I watch a lot of hoops and I’ve tried hard to get caught up since the Celtics season ended. These are my favorite second-round sleepers who could potentially be available when Boston picks:
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Anybody with The Athletic want to let us know what this says about Herb?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:41 am to Chadaristic
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1. Herbert Jones: 6-8 F, Alabama
The dude is disruptive. Jones was one of the best defenders in college basketball last season, a long-armed, rangy force. Some of his blocks blew by impressive on their way to preposterous. He has a bunch of energy, all the physical tools and a high level of defensive IQ. I have full faith that he will be a plus defender at the NBA level – and maybe even a difference-making type of talent at that end of the court.
If Jones could score, he probably would have been selected in the lottery two or three years ago. But he didn’t crack double digits in scoring average until his senior year at Alabama. Even while winning SEC Player of the Year this past season, he barely scraped over the mark at 11.2 points per game. After three years as a non-shooter, he made a bit of progress from behind the arc this past season, hitting 35.1 percent of his attempts from that distance. Even then, he made fewer than one 3-pointer per game against defenses that wanted him to let it fly. Jones’ shooting stroke is a significant issue. It could keep him off the court in the NBA or at least hinder him throughout his career. I still think he’s worthy of a selection just about anywhere in the second round. If he falls to the Celtics, not all a given based on his spot at No. 32 in Vecenie’s latest mock draft, they should strongly consider him.
Jones makes his impact in other ways. Just about every other way, actually. He handled plenty of ball-handling responsibilities this past season and averaged 3.3 assists per game. He set the Alabama record for charges drawn in a single season (23) and career (77). He led the team as a senior in rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, deflections and floor dives. Jones’s glaring flaw as a shooter may always hold him back, but the rest of his game is easy to fall in love with.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:41 am to Chadaristic
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2021 NBA Draft scouting report: Joshua Primo
It was January 19th. The Alabama Crimson Tide were on a seven game winning streak, winning six straight in Southeastern Conference play after a confusing stretch of non-conference games. The Tide waltzed into Baton Rouge, looking to continue their dominant run led by their core mostly made up of non-freshmen.
Minutes in, Alabama had already knocked down multiple 3s when Joshua Primo — the lone freshman starter — joined in on the fun with a pull-up jumper from deep in transition. 20 seconds later, LSU forward Trendon Watford watched as he sank too low to get the necessary contest for the curling Primo while he drilled his second straight triple.
He’d finish with 22 points in a breakout game that saw him shoot 6-of-8 from beyond the arc. It hadn’t even been 30 days since he blew out the candles on his 18th birthday cake.
Primo’s youth has been the foundation of the case he’s built as a potential first round pick in this year’s NBA Draft. He was the youngest player in college basketball this year, mostly looking his age to begin the season. He initially flew under the radar as an NBA prospect, but ultimately saw the reps and had a few hot streaks like he had at LSU.
On an experienced Alabama team that reached unfamiliar heights this past season, the freshman started in 19 of his 30 appearances. He’d been entrusted with an opportunity that went beyond his years.
But the 6-foot-6, 190 pound combo guard was rarely the offense’s initiator, with starting guards Jaden Shackelford and John Petty Jr. being involved in most of the action, and forward Herb Jones taking on some pick-and-roll duties before him. With Jahvon Quinerly as the first player off the pine, Primo found himself in the pick-and-roll merely 10.6% of the time.
Despite mostly playing off the ball, the Toronto native excelled in his role. He averaged 8.3 points and 3.4 rebounds in 22.5 minutes, often being called upon for his shooting. Primo shot 38.1% from 3, ranking in the 93rd percentile (per Synergy) in Division I in spot-up shooting at a 44.4% mark on 72 attempts.
The setting sculpted Primo’s profile. The Crimson Tide were arguably the most similar Power 5 program to an NBA team in terms of playstyle. They were among the fastest teams in tempo and possession length, and had 39.7% of their points come from deep. It determined his role before he knew it.
While his role limited any versatility in his jumpshot, his potential as a shooter shouldn’t take a hit. Primo has the tools to be a good NBA shooter. He knew his niche, constantly being found with his knees bent, ready to shoot. He displayed deep range at times, and made any defense that dared to help one pass away look foolish.
Primo generally moves well away from the ball. It’s how he found himself open so many times along the perimeter. And despite the small sample size, he ranked in the 98th percentile as a cutter, losing defenders en route to the rim.
With the way Alabama prepared him, Primo should be able to make an immediate impact as a shooter and off-ball guard. But the role the freshman carved out for himself wasn’t solely due to the plethora of playmakers piled ahead of him. He also displayed his fair share of limitations throughout the year.
He doesn’t quite possess that on-ball burst. He won’t amaze personnel with his strength or speed. There were times where his failed isolation attempts turned into turnovers or poor shots. He didn’t quite use his size to create advantages against smaller defenders, and his handle was seldom enough to get a good look against defenders closer to his size.
Though he shot relatively well, Primo could grow inconsistent at times. While being the fourth or fifth option might not demand a crazy amount of consistency, he generated his fair share of concern. If it wasn’t streaky shooting from deep, it was his poor conversion in transition. He scored just 66 points in 77 transition opportunities, putting him in the 26th percentile in that category.
As a playmaker, Primo was limited for aforementioned reasons. However, he still showed flashes of what scouts would come to like about him in June. He was more than capable of making a brilliant pass every now and then, though they were hardly ever converted into assists. Hidden beneath a timid display of creation were patient navigations in the pick-and-roll and wrap passes out of double teams.
Primo’s playmaking and creation upside were on full display at the NBA Draft Combine in June. He demonstrated a level of confidence with the ball than scouts had previously seen. In the third clip below he makes an accurate skip pass to his shooter in the corner with 6’10 G-League Ignite forward Isaiah Todd draped over him.
“The biggest thing is that I’m not just a shooter,” Primo told the Indiana Pacers of what he showed at the Combine. “I’m able to make plays out there and be a decision maker on a team. Be able to get downhill and score, get downhill and spray out, get downhill and be able to make plays.”
It was at the Combine where Primo was measured with a 6’9.25 wingspan and large hands. Those attributes will come in handy on the defensive end, where he enjoyed a solid year for the Crimson Tide. He successfully switched 1 through 3 throughout the season, and kept up with a couple 4s without adequate strength and frame. Primo looked solid as a team defender, making decent rotations despite lapses at times.
As many times as his age was displayed throughout the season in certain scenarios, it also made his general feel that much more impressive when he did well. Primo’s defensive upside has far fewer asterisks than his potential as a creator. His floor is likely as a solid perimeter defender, with proper size to be disruptive and guard both small guards and wings at the next level.
Though he initially intended to test the waters, Primo’s successful one day stay at the Combine generated enough buzz to virtually make him a lock inside the top 40. In regards to the Hawks’ pick, it’s unnecessary to draft him at No. 20 overall considering he’ll likely be available for at least another eight to 10 picks.
Some fans have already fixated on proven creators like Sharife Cooper, Tre Mann, Ayo Dosunmu and Jared Butler as prime targets for the Hawks’ first pick. Primo might not be worth the selection, but a possible trade down to take him is intriguing. There will be veteran point guards available this summer if the Hawks want to immediately better their second unit backcourt, don’t envision Kevin Huerter as the bench’s primary creator or simply want the defensive small that they’ve long been searching for.
But Primo is one of the more intriguing prospects in this class. He’s certainly a project, but one that might be worth the work. The name of the game is creation, and perhaps no team knows that more than the Hawks after their heap of creators aided their longest postseason run in Atlanta history. The idea of a secondary creator that can also potentially guard multiple positions and be a plus shooter should be enticing. Primo’s youth makes any team’s consideration worthwhile.
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Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:42 am to Chadaristic
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Goodman thinks Cockburn goes back to Illinois.
This makes sense, might also be why Illinois wasn't going hard after Obanor
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:44 am to rockiee
Thank you, sir. 
Holy cow, Herb being mocked that close to the first round.
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No. 32 in Vecenie’s latest mock draft
Holy cow, Herb being mocked that close to the first round.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:46 am to rockiee
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Expected to choose from Illinois, Kentucky and FSU
Zagoria referring to Cockburn.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:59 am to Chadaristic
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