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re: Tide Hoops | Recruiting
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:25 pm to TrojanTide
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:25 pm to TrojanTide
Lets hope these guys are all full of shite and both come back
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:27 pm to mistaken4193
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With the NIL kicking in If I was Primo I would come back.
He can make a decent amount here this year and pretty much is guaranteed to be a lottery guy next year.
None of these kids have patience
If he's a 1st round pick then it's completely reasonable for him to leave - especially if he's a late 1st round pick to a good organization with a specific plan for him. He'll get guaranteed money, improve and play a certain small role next year with a plan for him to step into a bigger role in years 2 and 3 with a solid core around him.
I just think it's gotta be tough to feel comfortable when you are so close to that cutoff line, because I don't think anyone would say it's a good idea for him to leave and be a 2nd round pick.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:27 pm to mistaken4193
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VCU's Bones Hyland, Alabama's Josh Primo and Iowa's Luka Garza (groin) have withdrawn from today's NBA Combine scrimmages.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:31 pm to mistaken4193
I know a lot of people are saying it's not a huge deal if Primo leaves, but I think it would be a really big loss to lose a guy like that. Doesn't mean we'd suck or anything, but the difference in good teams and elite teams is the waves they bring in off the bench. Having almost no drop off between Ellis/Primo across the floor (defense, offense, ballhandling, shooting, athleticism) is a huge deal.
If we lose Shack and Primo then that's a big hit for next year. We'll still be good, but we'll need serious contributions from young guys from Day 1 instead of being able to slowly bring them along. I'd really prefer not to do that. One of the biggest positives about currently constructed 2022 team is the waves of experienced and versatile depth that we can throw at teams. When you have 8 guys you trust that can go off for 15-20 pts on any given night, your odds for success are very, very high.
If we lose Shack and Primo then that's a big hit for next year. We'll still be good, but we'll need serious contributions from young guys from Day 1 instead of being able to slowly bring them along. I'd really prefer not to do that. One of the biggest positives about currently constructed 2022 team is the waves of experienced and versatile depth that we can throw at teams. When you have 8 guys you trust that can go off for 15-20 pts on any given night, your odds for success are very, very high.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah...losing just 1 of Primo/Shack would suck but we can replace. Losing both hurts. Still a tournament team but I dont think we can repeat as Conference Champs or make a F4 now unless Holt and Miles step up.
I also worry about our tough schedule with all of these new pieces. It’s taken us a few games in Oats 1st 2 years to get going
I also worry about our tough schedule with all of these new pieces. It’s taken us a few games in Oats 1st 2 years to get going
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 2:26 pm to mistaken4193
Well it will give these new guys a lot more minutes than anticipated
Posted on 6/25/21 at 3:54 pm to SummerOfGeorge
well speaking for myself on primo im one of the few i saw here who said hed lead us in scoring, and even one of the fewer who was sure he would get drafted if he insisted. point is im very aware on how much it would suck to lose him, but im also very aware of the potential of our depth and talent without him and now even shack, though im still far from sure shack even leaves.
i mean the pieces are clearly there. technically speaking, i dont see much dropoff at all from having a more solidified role for jd, jq, and keon. then our depth is still highly heralded gold that most p6 teams dont have, which means the likeliness for several of these lesser role guys being able to step up is about as good as it gets. personally speaking, im quite fine with guys like gary, miles, and nimari getting more time. the though of nimari w/ gary and keon lineups in particular really gives me goosebumps on locking teams down. perhaps holt and kah could work in the rotation some as well. throw in my totally unreal but quite possible gurley/frenchie/bediako expectations with the coaching and i have no doubt well still be a contender. no, we may not be as OP as before, but a contender still? no question.
also now that i think about it, if shack really did transfer out of concern for minutes, then id take that as a pretty big sign in confirming just how ready some of those guys chomping at the bit behind him really are.
i mean the pieces are clearly there. technically speaking, i dont see much dropoff at all from having a more solidified role for jd, jq, and keon. then our depth is still highly heralded gold that most p6 teams dont have, which means the likeliness for several of these lesser role guys being able to step up is about as good as it gets. personally speaking, im quite fine with guys like gary, miles, and nimari getting more time. the though of nimari w/ gary and keon lineups in particular really gives me goosebumps on locking teams down. perhaps holt and kah could work in the rotation some as well. throw in my totally unreal but quite possible gurley/frenchie/bediako expectations with the coaching and i have no doubt well still be a contender. no, we may not be as OP as before, but a contender still? no question.
also now that i think about it, if shack really did transfer out of concern for minutes, then id take that as a pretty big sign in confirming just how ready some of those guys chomping at the bit behind him really are.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 5:34 pm to rushball
We will know something on Shack by July 1. If he doesn’t put his name in the portal he is coming back.
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The NCAA's notification date for transfers to be immediately eligible for the 21-22 season is July 1st.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 5:47 pm to mistaken4193
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Oh he is coming back to college... it just won’t be here.
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We will know something on Shack by July 1. If he doesn’t put his name in the portal he is coming back.
You already said he is leaving, are you already backtracking?
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 6:25 pm to CrimsonFever
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You already said he is leaving, are you already backtracking?
No. All things point to him not coming back here. We will know if he is coming back to college for sure by July 1. If he doesn’t put his name in the portal by July 1 then he has to play here if he returns to College. Which I think he will because I don’t think he would want to go overseas
Btw this isn’t my opinion. I’m just relaying what the guys who are the “Boz” of BOL and Rivals are saying.....right or wrong. I figured you would want every detail you could get like me because we are all going through withdrawals. But you seemed to be getting pissed about it because it isn’t good news. I will just report the sunshine from now on.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:06 pm to mistaken4193
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But you seemed to be getting pissed about it because it isn’t good news. I will just report the sunshine from now on.
Bitch, you better not forget about lollipops and rainbows. I want it all! But I reserve the right to insult you if I don't like someone else's opinion that you post.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:07 pm to mistaken4193
Bleacher Reports Jonathan Wasserman
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Quick combine takeaways
- Hearing 1st-round interest in Bones Hyland
- Primo gonna stay in
- Thor going first round, and it might not be that late - Grimes, Wieskamp clearly rising
-Preston has fans. Someone will want to bet on his feel
-Scouts turned off by Bagley sitting
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:36 pm to mistaken4193
This is a from Bulls fansided article...
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Primo has also reportedly only worked out for the Bulls, which is a good indicator for the level of interest for which this front office and scouting department have in getting to know him and his game further.
Chicago Bulls were the lone team this week to workout Josh Primo
But Primo has also apparently spoke to a double-digit number of other teams as he’s going through this draft scouting process.
Some of the college stats and physical tools that Primo brings to the table makes him an appealing draft prospect for the Bulls’ 38th spot in the second round. He has a solid vertical leap that was previously recorded around 38 inches and a lengthy 6-foot-11 wingspan.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:40 pm to mistaken4193
I am not pissed because it isn't good news, not pissed at all, I just don't think it's true that he is transfering. I post on Rivals and have only seen one guy post thqt they think he is leaving and the guy isnt an insider he is a regular poster.
I believe you that some regular posters on BOL may be sayng it, but I will be shocked if it happens and and not gonna worry about it unless it actually does happen.
I believe you that some regular posters on BOL may be sayng it, but I will be shocked if it happens and and not gonna worry about it unless it actually does happen.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:40 pm to mistaken4193
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But you seemed to be getting pissed about it because it isn’t good news. I will just report the sunshine from now on.
I’d rather get the good and the bad news. The fragile folks can go to their safe space for a little bit if they don’t like it. I appreciate you bringing it here
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:45 pm to CrimsonFever
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CrimsonFever
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:03 pm to mistaken4193
Losing Primo will hurt but if both Primo and Shack aren’t back I think you have to dial back expectations a bit: Petty, Herb, Primo, Shack, Reese, Rojas out for season..I know we brought in a lot of talent but it would basically be a brand new team. Not much continuity. And we would have to avoid injuries.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:19 pm to CCTider
If he stays in the draft after his freshman year in order to go 38th overall he just had no desire to be in college for a day longer than he had to be. Because that's a fricking moronic career move on his part.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:20 pm to Robot Santa
These kids have no patience
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:24 pm to Allthatfades
Oh, how will we ever be able replace Rojas' production? Guess it's a rebuild year.
I won't joke about Reese. Because he had good senior leadership qualities. And he ended his career with a great memory, even if we fell short in the end.
Honestly, losing Herb sucks. I'll leave it at that
I, and most others, think Primo was primed to break out. With Petty, it's actually his defense I'll miss most. Obviously a great 3 point shooter. But his inconsistency was an issue. It madder it hard to rely on him in a big game. It's also why he isn't going to be drafted, even though he has a gorgeous shooting stroke. I hope he can put it together overseas, but his offensive production is replaceable, imo. Especially with how well Ellis was playing by the end of the year. And the practice reports on Burnett are very promising.
Shack made me cuss a lot. I'll admit I haven't always spoken kindly about him. But the guy is a great player. With additional ball handlers and guys who can penetrate, I expected him to look even better and more efficient next season. Forcing plays was his biggest problem. And that's correctable. Losing him and Primo stings. But this team still has great potential. It's hard to say final four with confidence with them both gone. But this is still as talented of a roster as I've ever seen at Bama
I won't joke about Reese. Because he had good senior leadership qualities. And he ended his career with a great memory, even if we fell short in the end.
Honestly, losing Herb sucks. I'll leave it at that
I, and most others, think Primo was primed to break out. With Petty, it's actually his defense I'll miss most. Obviously a great 3 point shooter. But his inconsistency was an issue. It madder it hard to rely on him in a big game. It's also why he isn't going to be drafted, even though he has a gorgeous shooting stroke. I hope he can put it together overseas, but his offensive production is replaceable, imo. Especially with how well Ellis was playing by the end of the year. And the practice reports on Burnett are very promising.
Shack made me cuss a lot. I'll admit I haven't always spoken kindly about him. But the guy is a great player. With additional ball handlers and guys who can penetrate, I expected him to look even better and more efficient next season. Forcing plays was his biggest problem. And that's correctable. Losing him and Primo stings. But this team still has great potential. It's hard to say final four with confidence with them both gone. But this is still as talented of a roster as I've ever seen at Bama
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