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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm to Bama3714
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:17 pm to Bama3714
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MoD commits to UK.
Guess it’s a good thing for us that he’s just a mediocre role player, undersized 4, that has limited upside and no shot at the NBA despite just completing his sophomore year and having the 2nd best efficiency metrics on our team and showing an improved 3 point shot. Pope is clearly an idiot
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:19 pm
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:19 pm to BamaBravesPackers
I think it makes sense he would try to sign the 7th man from a team that went 3-0 against him last year.
Did I mention we currently have 4 McDonalds All Americans on our roster?
Did I mention we currently have 4 McDonalds All Americans on our roster?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:23 pm to BamaBravesPackers
I’m certainly not scared for Alabama to play against him. More power to him and Pope if they can play our style of play and give him 28+ minutes a night.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:39 pm to mistaken4193
Here’s what we’re looking at from an advanced analytics perspective:
Perimeter:
Holloway: O: 5.41 / D: 0.02 / T: 5.43
Philon: O: 3.67 / D: 1.35 / T: 5.02
Bethea: O: .9 / D:-1.13 / T: -.23
Wrightsell (LY): O: 3.62 / D: 1.68 / T: 5.2
Mallette (LY); O: 1.41 / D: -.03 / T: 1.38
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Sherrell: O: 2.38 / D: 1.53 / T: 3.9
Stevenson: O: 2.55 / D: 1.55 / 3.6
Reid: O: 1.33 / D: 1.39 / T: 3.32
Williamson: O: .62 / D: .87 / T: 1.49
Bowen: O: .29 / D: 1.08 : T: 1.37
Perimeter:
Holloway: O: 5.41 / D: 0.02 / T: 5.43
Philon: O: 3.67 / D: 1.35 / T: 5.02
Bethea: O: .9 / D:-1.13 / T: -.23
Wrightsell (LY): O: 3.62 / D: 1.68 / T: 5.2
Mallette (LY); O: 1.41 / D: -.03 / T: 1.38
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Sherrell: O: 2.38 / D: 1.53 / T: 3.9
Stevenson: O: 2.55 / D: 1.55 / 3.6
Reid: O: 1.33 / D: 1.39 / T: 3.32
Williamson: O: .62 / D: .87 / T: 1.49
Bowen: O: .29 / D: 1.08 : T: 1.37
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:42 pm to Bryant91092
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I’m certainly not scared for Alabama to play against him. More power to him and Pope if they can play our style of play and give him 28+ minutes a night.
Not sure about any of the new players, but I definitely wouldn’t want to see a MoD vs. Stevenson or even vs. Reid battle. If his 3 point shooting continues to improve, he could play the 3 for KY and would be a very difficult defender and rebounder at the 3. I think a lot of people don’t remember just how good he was at getting O-boards.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:46 pm to BamaBravesPackers
I'm just happy to live in a time where UK is paying players that Bama let walk.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:47 pm to BamaBravesPackers
His set shot turned into an asset. It’ll be interesting if he can hit 3s at a decent clip if teams actually start guarding him.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:47 pm to tide06
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Here’s what we’re looking at from an advanced analytics perspective:
Calling that “analytics” is a little generous. 99% of public college basketball statistics are box score based, you don’t get tracking stats like the NBA.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:53 pm to Crimsontide1713
There's a reason Nate wouldn't guarantee Mo starters minutes. Without a major adjustment to how he plays his game Mo is either gassed or fouling out with 28+ minutes a game.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:04 pm to RollTide33
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There's a reason Nate wouldn't guarantee Mo starters minutes. Without a major adjustment to how he plays his game Mo is either gassed or fouling out with 28+ minutes a game.
I’ve never heard of Nate “guaranteeing” anyone minutes, and it’s clear we didn’t want to pay what he was asking, which I agree with. Once they’ve come back a 3rd time, you have to let them walk (JQ, MoD, etc.).
I’m not saying he was ready for 25-28 minutes a game, but it doesn’t mean I have to downplay how impactful he was as a sophomore on a very talented team. If he had enough minutes to qualify, he would have been 3rd in the SEC in total rebounding % behind Williams (KY) and Broome. He would have been 8th in O-Board % right above Condon (FL). The guy was a productive player, and while I agree with the decision to let him walk, I’m not looking forward to our guys trying to keep him off the glass next year or seeing him guarding Reid, Stevenson, or even a guy like Bethea (hopefully Bethea could get him in foul trouble, but MO’s been known to bother larger guards).
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:06 pm to RollTide33
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Without a major adjustment to how he plays his game Mo is either gassed or fouling out with 28+ minutes a game.
And with a major adjustment to his game, his efficiency will go way down. Someone mentioned this without spelling it out a couple days ago and the villagers rioted.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:20 pm to Crimsontide1713
From Evan Miya:
“ We have created an advanced statistical metric, Bayesian Performance Rating (BPR), which quantifies how effective a team or player is, using advanced box-score metrics, play-by-play data, and historical information. This metric is predictive in nature, which means that each rating is fine-tuned to predict performance in future games.”
Is it equal to the NBA or MLB? Absolutely not.
But ultimately it’s much better than just looking at PPG, etc from an impact standpoint and was extremely accurate from a predictive standpoint at a team level.
As to whether the model breaks down effectively at the player level particularly on defense where it’s much more subjective that’s a fair question.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:34 pm to TideCPA
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TideCPA
It makes sense for UK in that they need some gritty dudes to help with that sieve of a defense. It makes zero sense for them from a system standpoint.
words cant describe how much i wish that were even remotely true.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:38 pm to Teague
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I'm just happy to live in a time where UK is paying players that Bama let walk
We're the Blue Bloods now.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:41 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Not sure about any of the new players, but I definitely wouldn’t want to see a MoD vs. Stevenson or even vs. Reid battle. If his 3 point shooting continues to improve, he could play the 3 for KY and would be a very difficult defender and rebounder at the 3. I think a lot of people don’t remember just how good he was at getting O-boards.
i think a sophomore reid has enough potential to battle it out with him, then make him sweat some on the other end. bowen will need to be money from 3 to keep mo from helping off as much. same with jarin.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:41 pm to Sandkhan
Does anyone have the address to Kentucky’s athletics department so the guys on here can write Mo Dioubate a proper love letter and stop shitting up the board?
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:44 pm to tide06
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Holloway: O: 5.41 / D: 0.02 / T: 5.43
Philon: O: 3.67 / D: 1.35 / T: 5.02
Bethea: O: .9 / D:-1.13 / T: -.23
Wrightsell (LY): O: 3.62 / D: 1.68 / T: 5.2
Mallette (LY); O: 1.41 / D: -.03 / T: 1.38
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Sherrell: O: 2.38 / D: 1.53 / T: 3.9
Stevenson: O: 2.55 / D: 1.55 / 3.6
Reid: O: 1.33 / D: 1.39 / T: 3.32
Williamson: O: .62 / D: .87 / T: 1.49
Bowen: O: .29 / D: 1.08 : T: 1.37
obviously not great on paper but atleast in regards to potential we have arguably more upside guys than anyone right now. just a big question mark at this point, but if anyone knows how to get it right itd be oats so, well see.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:04 pm to Sandkhan
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Does anyone have the address to Kentucky’s athletics department so the guys on here can write Mo Dioubate a proper love letter and stop shitting up the board?
Solid basketball analysis, and conflict resolution skills. I bet you’re really fun to work with on a project where there are differing opinions.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:15 pm to tide06
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We have created an advanced statistical metric, Bayesian Performance Rating (BPR), which quantifies how effective a team or player is, using advanced box-score metrics, play-by-play data, and historical information. This metric is predictive in nature, which means that each rating is fine-tuned to predict performance in future games.”
I really dont like their system. That system claimed the 4 best freshmen in the country were all Duke players. Pettiford was the only SEC freshman in the top 10, and he was 8th.
It also claimed that Duke's 8th best player was only 32 spots behind Mark Sears in the player rankings.
It needs adjustment.
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:18 pm to rushball
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obviously not great on paper but atleast in regards to potential we have arguably more upside guys than anyone right now.
Scoring wise I think we’re fine.
Holloway / Wrightsell / Mallette / Philon is ultra elite on the perimeter, the defense there is the rub but the kid from Miami should help on that front.
As for the front court I think Sherrell is ready as a 5, you have the two stretch 4 guys in Stevenson and Williamson and then Reid has massive upside. Not really sure what to make of Bowen but he was highly recruited and has a lot of length so that’s a start.
I’m most concerned about replacing Cliff, Nelson and Mo defensively.
Wrightsell will have to be the go to scorer but you don’t just replace a Sears as a focal point. That said Holloway was one of the best offensive players in the conference from an efficiency standpoint and I happen to think Mallette could be a big time player if he comes back healthy so I just don’t see points as an issue next year.
On paper it’s not the 24/25 team but that’s an elite lineup that can play with anyone.
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