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Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:14 am to
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I mean to be fair there have been plenty of games in the past that we lost that I didn't ever think we were going to lose. My feel for games should generally be ignored.


I just assume any close game against a mid major late we are going to lose.

Call it Johnsgrant Syndrome.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
8943 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:31 am to
On one hand, that’s a game we probably lost a couple years ago. On the other hand, I’d hoped those kind of games were behind us as a program. I understand some nights you don’t you shoot well, etc. but last night, especially the first half, almost looked like an Avery era team with the lack of focus and intensity. At least we won though and that’s all that matters. Still really optimistic on the season
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29983 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:33 am to
The worst loss to a mid major was Georgia State...we just slowly watched our massive lead shrink away all knowing what was gonna happen
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40978 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:40 am to
Norfolk was the most bittersweet game of the last five years imo.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
15908 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:41 am to
2021 SEC Men's Basketball Power Rankings: Week 2 (SI)

With all teams having played at least two games so far, the 2021-22 SEC men's basketball season is in full swing.

2021 SEC Men's Basketball Power Rankings: Week 2

1. Alabama (3-0)
2. Auburn (2-0)
3. Tennessee (2-0)
4. Florida (2-0)
5. Arkansas (2-0)
6. Kentucky (2-1)
7. Mississippi State (2-0)
8. LSU (3-0)
9. Ole Miss (2-0)
10. Vanderbilt (2-0)
11. Texas A&M (3-0)
12. South Carolina (2-1)
13. Georgia (2-1)
14. Missouri (1-1)
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29983 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:42 am to
We lost to Mercer on Opening Night one year I wanna say Gottfried was still coach and I melted pretty hard
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29983 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:43 am to
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Norfolk was the most bittersweet game of the last five years imo.


No emotion about losing that game. I was embarrassed as a fan but it led to Avery getting canned and Oats getting hired
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:45 am to
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Who took anything personally? I’m assuming you’re pretty young and maybe not used to having your opinions challenged. Just because that happens doesn’t mean the people making those challenges are somehow offended. You made a very bold and brash statement about a team with a great number of new players based on nothing more than 2 home games against supposed to be good mid majors. The very day you made the prediction, the team nearly lost a home game to a supposed to be bad mid major. Everyone here wants this team to be as good as you say they are, but the body of evidence to state with certainty they’re that good simply doesn’t exist yet.
Chadsadipshit seemed personally attacked subposting all game, but he was the only one, everyone else just disagreed(understandable, it’s a very disagreeable take). And of course there’s no body of work to prove it yet, that’s what made it “bold and brash” in your eyes. Just wait though, I really think y’all will come around, and Chad can be my friend.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:48 am to
1995-1996 : Lost to Saint Peter's by 10 (CDH)
1995-1996 : Lost to Bucknell by 8 (CDH)
1996-1997 : Lost to San Jose State by 1 (CDH)
1996-1997 : Lost to Santa Clara by 15 (CDH)
1997-1998 : Lost to American-Puerto Rico by 9 (CDH)
1997-1998 : Lost to FIU by 2 (CDH)
1997-1998 : Lost to Tulane by 5 (CDH)
1999-2000 : Lost to Northern Iowa by 1 (CMG)
1999-2000 : Lost to Saint Louis by 8 (CMG)
1999-2000 : Lost to Samford by 8 (CMG)
1999-2000 : Lost to Delaware by 10 (CMG)
2007-2008 : Lost to Belmont by 2 (CMG)
2008-2009 : Lost to Mercer by 3 (CMG)
2009-2010 : Lost to Cornell by 4 (CAG)
2010-2011 : Lost to Saint Peter's by 1 (CAG)
2012-2013 : Lost to Dayton by 5 (CAG)
2012-2013 : Lost to Mercer by 7 (CAG)
2012-2013 : Lost to Tulane by 3 (CAG)
2013-2014 : Lost to Drexel by 2 (CAG)
2016-2017 : Lost to Dayton by 5 (CAJ)
2016-2017 : Lost to Valpo by 8 (CAJ)
2017-2018 : Lost to UCF by 3 (CAJ)
2018-2019 : Lost to Northeastern by 4 (CAJ)
2018-2019 : Lost to UCF by 6 (CAJ)
2018-2019 : Lost to Georgia St by 3 (CAJ)
2019-2020 : Lost to Penn by 1 (CNO)
2019-2020 : Lost to Rhode Island by 14 (CNO)
2020-2021 : Lost to Western Kentucky by 2 (CNO)


It is interesting that we never lost those types of games under Gottfried (until the very end). And we played a lot of solid mid-majors in Nov/Dec under him.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 11:53 am
Posted by RTN
Member since Oct 2016
880 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:50 am to
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2020-2021 : Lost to Western Kentucky by 2 (CNO)



The Bassey mismatch makes it sting a lot less. Plus we all know what happened after this one.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 11:54 am
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
15908 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:55 am to
Women’s Basketball tonight:

Alabama Hosts Southern Miss in Coleman Coliseum Wednesday

The contest will be broadcasted on SEC Network Plus, with Roger Hoover and Leah Drury on the call
Posted by Crimsonite94
Member since Jul 2021
3564 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:20 pm to
It’s time for Saban to endorse a new Arena. I want one so badly.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46198 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

It is interesting that we never lost those types of games under Gottfried (until the very end). And we played a lot of solid mid-majors in Nov/Dec under him.


Two thoughts on that: just like in football, I think the quality of small school basketball has gotten significantly deeper over the last 10-15 years, and Gottfried had some absolutely stacked teams during the early 00s.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:39 pm to
David Hobbs is a fantastic human being, but man were his teams tough to watch. Other than the year he had McDyess, we were pretty terrible.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
8943 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:56 pm to
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David Hobbs is a fantastic human being, but man were his teams tough to watch.


Maybe it was because I was a kid but some of my favorite players were on those Hobbs teams…Eric Washington and Brian Williams. Roy Rogers too
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:57 pm to
Marvin Orange!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Maybe it was because I was a kid but some of my favorite players were on those Hobbs teams…Eric Washington and Brian Williams. Roy Rogers too



His first few teams were fine as Wimp's players cycled through. After that....oof.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9207 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:18 pm to
That list of mid-major losses actually doesn't look as bad as I had expected. Especially considering the handful of quality mid-majors on there; type that can make the tourney without an auto bid. I guess we've even been "middle of the road" in embarrassing upset losses the last 20 years like everything else.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
29983 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:19 pm to
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Chadsadipshit


Oh God...
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 1:35 pm to
ESPN+ - Most talented CBB Teams

1. Duke
2. Gonzaga

3. AUBURN

quote:

2022 Top 100 players: PF Jabari Smith (No. 3), SF Allen Flanigan (No. 31), C Walker Kessler (No. 37)

Other NBA scouting targets: PG/SG K.D. Johnson

Prospects for overseas or other pro leagues: PG Wendell Green Jr., C Jaylin Williams, SF/PF Devan Cambridge

Bruce Pearl's attractive style and track record of player development has helped him lure two McDonald's All Americans in Smith and the UNC transfer Kessler, despite the presence of a not-yet-resolved NCAA investigation. Smith has shown early fireworks that might warrant consideration for the No. 1 pick if he continues to evolve in SEC play, while the 7-foot-1 Kessler's combination of size, shooting and shot-blocking instincts will always be attractive to NBA teams. The question marks surrounding the return of potential first-rounder Flanigan from an Achilles tendon injury will help determine how high this team's ceiling is in March as well as the evolution of bowling ball-like scoring machine Johnson as a decision-making combo guard.


4. UCLA

5. TENNESSEE

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2022 Top 100 players: PG Kennedy Chandler (No. 17), SF Josiah-Jordan James (No. 44) SG Justin Powell (No. 65)

Other NBA scouting targets: PF Brandon Huntley-Hatfield

Prospects for overseas or other pro leagues: PF/C Olivier Nkamhoua, PG/SG Santiago Vescovi, SG Victor Bailey Jr., PF John Fulkerson, C Uros Plavsic, SG Quentin Diboundje, PG Zakai Zeigler

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Rick Barnes has made Knoxville a destination for NBA scouts with the success he has had in developing pros. He has one of his deepest, most talented teams ever this season, which includes the No. 1 point guard recruit in the freshman class in Chandler. Fellow McDonald's All American Huntley-Hatfield will have a chance to show he is worthy of one-and-done consideration, as well, while current second-round candidates Powell and James have much to gain from a NBA standpoint by helping the Vols make a deep NCAA tournament run.


6. Memphis

7. KENTUCKY

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2022 Top 100 players: PG TyTy Washington Jr. (No. 11), PF/C Daimion Collins (No. 28)

Other NBA scouting targets: C Oscar Tshiebwe, SF Bryce Hopkins

Prospects for overseas or other pro leagues: SG Kellan Grady, SG Davion Mintz, PF Keion Brooks Jr., PF Jacob Toppin, PG Sahvir Wheeler, SG Dontaie Allen, PF/C Lance Ware, SG CJ Fredrick

After a disappointing season, John Calipari went all in on the transfer portal, leading to by far the oldest team he has had in Lexington. That could directly correlate to the fewest number of Calipari players who will hear their names called on draft night since 2007, due to the spotty track record of transfers in the NBA. Kentucky's complement of picks will depend in part on the evolution of raw but ultra-talented freshman Collins, as there is not a great deal of NBA intrigue around Kentucky's upperclassmen (who could nonetheless help the team win plenty of games). Kentucky has already signaled its intent to shift back to the Wildcats' previous strategy centered around blue-chip freshman recruits by hauling in the No. 1 recruiting class in the country in 2022.



8. ALABAMA

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2022 Top 100 players: PG JD Davison (No. 15), Keon Ellis (No. 59), Jahvon Quinerly (No. 62)

Other NBA scouting targets: C Charles Bediako, SF Darius Miles, SG Jaden Shackelford

Prospects for overseas or other pro leagues: SF/PF Noah Gurley, SF/PF Juwan Gary

Davison is the headliner here as one of the most explosive guards in the country who is perfectly built for Nate Oats' up-tempo offense. The 6-foot-3 Davison has a chance to be the first point guard selected come June if he is able to show enough promise as a perimeter shooter -- his biggest question mark -- to go along with his dynamic style and impressive floor game. The 21-year-old Ellis is the breakout candidate in line for a big senior season thanks to his explosiveness, improved shooting stroke, defensive energy and elite positional rebounding as a springy 6-foot-6 guard. Expect 22-year-old point guard Quinerly to also enter the draft conversation with a big junior year. An absolute wizard with the ball who is almost impossible for opposing guards to keep in front, Quinerly gets wherever he wants on the floor, can shoot or pass off the dribble and has the type of touch necessary to finish in the trees at 6-foot-1. Sharpshooter Shackelford should be in line for a productive season scoring the ball, while Miles is a long-term prospect to track given his size (6-foot-6) and shooting stroke at just 20 years old.


9. Baylor
10. Michigan
11. Purdue
12. Arizona
13. Kansas
14. UW-Milwaukee
15. Michigan State
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