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Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 8:42 am to
I am fully invested in the Clowney hype train. He is going to be the athletic, skilled big we all thought Tchikou was going to be.
Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 9:47 am to
Season tix copped
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:29 am to
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Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:33 am to
Tide climbs list for new hoops offer RJ Johnson after visit + offer (VIP)

BOL folks - anything worthwhile in here? Or is this just another Hank special that comes out after all of the free articles and says the exact same things the free articles said?
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:35 am to
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Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren tells Bryant Gumbel on an upcoming @RealSportsHBO that he foresees paying college football and college basketball players.

Warren: “Those are the things that we have to resolve. We have to.”
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:38 am to
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pretty sure miles may still even start at that position this season, though between him and miller its pretty interchangeable.


Having Miles at the 4 in any lineup where Miles and Miller share the court wouldn't make much sense to me. Miller is longer and a much better shot-blocker. Him and Clowney at the 4 spot should be a pretty incredible rotation defensively.

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main problem last season was outside of keon our backcourt was pretty mediocre and undersized defensively,


Mediocre is putting it kindly but definitely agree. Our guards stopped no one and constantly made our bigs look bad because of all the collapsed defensive sets they allowed. With Clowney and Miller added to the cleanup crew, and Bradley, Burnett, and Welch replacing JQ, Shack, and JD, we should be much closer to our 2020-21 defense than our 2021-22 defense.

Posted by IRobbedMyMom
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 11:54 am to
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Having Miles at the 4 in any lineup where Miles and Miller share the court wouldn't make much sense to me.
You wouldn’t want two long athletes at the wing for any period of time? Both very switchable and can shoot. We have a deep roster, I’d like to see various sets and lineups throughout the course of a game.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 11:55 am
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:02 pm to
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You wouldn’t want two long athletes at the wing for any period of time? Both very switchable and can shoot. We have a deep roster, I’d like to see various sets and lineups throughout the course of a game.


I said I wouldn't want Miles at the 4 if him and Miller were both on the floor. Miles at the 3 and Miller at the 4 makes much more sense to me.
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:13 pm to
That’s just semantics. We run 4 out 1 in, or a 5 out depending if Bediako is running the 5 or we go small with Clowney at the 5.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:15 pm to
Does it really make much of a difference? If you're switching everything, which Oats seems to want to do if we can, they're both going to end up defending bigger stronger players and smaller quicker players at times.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:17 pm to
No there’s literally no difference between the 3/4 if Miles/Miller were playing at the same time. They’d both be forwards on the perimeter. He’s playing the semantics game
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:26 pm to
AU just released their noncon schedule. They are the 129th D1 school out of 363 to release their non schedule up to this point.
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:31 pm to
We’ll get ours sometime within the next couple of weeks
Posted by rushball
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:35 pm to
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pretty sure miles may still even start at that position this season, though between him and miller its pretty interchangeable.


Having Miles at the 4 in any lineup where Miles and Miller share the court wouldn't make much sense to me. Miller is longer and a much better shot-blocker. Him and Clowney at the 4 spot should be a pretty incredible rotation defensively.

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main problem last season was outside of keon our backcourt was pretty mediocre and undersized defensively,


Mediocre is putting it kindly but definitely agree. Our guards stopped no one and constantly made our bigs look bad because of all the collapsed defensive sets they allowed. With Clowney and Miller added to the cleanup crew, and Bradley, Burnett, and Welch replacing JQ, Shack, and JD, we should be much closer to our 2020-21 defense than our 2021-22 defense.


i agree. technically speaking miller seems more adept to handle that position. its just with all the switching well be doing miles will see a fair amount in that spot as well, which does have the potential to be a thing of chaotic beauty if the helpside/scrambles are as crisp as they were with that 2020 team. absolutely, the design is there on paper.

pretty much. i honestly thought our bigs did pretty good considering the situation. certainly hustled their asses off atleast. will be fun to see all the different lineups oats comes up with to throw out there now. so much more versatility on both ends.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 12:36 pm to
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No there’s literally no difference between the 3/4 if Miles/Miller were playing at the same time. They’d both be forwards on the perimeter. He’s playing the semantics game


In a traditional basketball sense, I see what Bird is saying and agree with him on that. Miller is bigger and probably stronger and would theoretically handle a traditional PF body better defensively.

But with the system we run, I also agree with you that it won't matter as much because ideally we will be switching just about everyone 1-4 or at least 2-4. There also isn't many teams around the country that employ two "bigs" on the floor at the same time anymore anyway.

I don't know if it's semantics or just miscommunication, but I think you are both pretty close to the same opinion.
Posted by TrojanTide
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 1:13 pm to
Alabama men’s basketball hosted RJ Johnson on campus Wednesday for an unofficial visit, one that yielded the Huntsville (Ala.) Grissom standout an offer from Nate Oats and company.

“It feels good,” Johnson said of his latest offer. “That hometown love is something different.”

Alabama joins programs like Georgia, LSU, and Wichita State that have also offered the No. 1 prospect — per 247Sports — in Alabama.




“The visit went pretty good,” he said. “Great to meet some of the guys like B-Milly, Stretch, and Jaden Bradley.”

Oats explained to Johnson what he liked about his game and why the staff wanted to offer.

“He liked that I was strong and physical and can play with or without the ball and guard one through four,” Johnson said.

With the offer in pocket now UA is going to be a serious contender for the in-state guard.

“The culture around,” Johnson said of his favorite part about the Tide.

Johnson had planned to announce a decision next week, with UGA trending. Now he plans to hold off for a bit.

“Sometime after Labor Day,” he said of when he’ll announce.

Johnson added that Bama is now “definitely” in his top two with Georgia.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:22 pm to
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No there’s literally no difference between the 3/4 if Miles/Miller were playing at the same time. They’d both be forwards on the perimeter. He’s playing the semantics game



Are you that dude at the bar always trying to start something?
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Does it really make much of a difference? If you're switching everything, which Oats seems to want to do if we can, they're both going to end up defending bigger stronger players and smaller quicker players at times.



Absolutely agree. But ideally you want to make the offense work for the switches instead of starting with a switched off defender.

For instance, Miller seems the better help defender as well as a better option for post defense. So if we ran up against Grant Williams 2.0 you'd want them to work to get the matchup they want (Miles on Williams) than give them the matchup right away. Even if there is no mismatch there, the further down you shift your best help defenders the more help defense they're able to provide given that they will likely start off defending a less talented ball-handler.
This post was edited on 8/19/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted by IRobbedMyMom
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 3:48 pm to
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Are you that dude at the bar always trying to start something?
Sorry for upsetting you
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