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re: Tide Football Thread in honor of TidalSurge
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:11 am to narddogg81
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:11 am to narddogg81
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I'll say it again, whichever QB can make the right reads and throw accurately on time is going to be the QB, wont matter how many games he's started
Yes, but in any case, Milroe will get all first-team reps until Fall camp.
There will be no risk of discord before the 1 May transfer deadline.
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:28 am to Fells
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Hard to imagine that Milroe hasn't won the team and I think it is likely that that is enough to win the job.
A head coach doesn't choose their QB by who's most popular. Whoever executes this new offense to the highest level in practice will win the job. Milroe is clearly a great guy and athlete, but anyone can see he has limitations in his passing game and seeing the field. If the new staff can work with him and he makes huge strides, that's great. But to say that he'll automatically get the job just because is silly. This QB room is as stacked as it's ever been for Bama. I wouldn't put it past Simpson or a pure passer like Lonergan to excel in this scheme, and then there's the transfer Mack to consider. QB1 is definitely up for grabs.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:20 am to Marktastic86
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:45 am to Marktastic86
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Alabama OC Nick Sheridan said that the staff evaluates the quarterback room with past performance in mind, so Jalen Milroe’s time as a starter is a huge factor in the quarterback decision.
“He’s an extremely talented player. He’s got a great attitude and work ethic that’s unmatched.”
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:03 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Booker> Ratledge and Jaeden Roberts ain’t far behind (if at all).
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:56 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Reading the full interview on BOL, I'm going to say it's wide open. He complimented Milroe, when obviously asked a direct question about him. But he also mentioned he still needs to develop, and he turned the answer back to the fact they have a very good QB room. Whoever can run the offense and distribute the ball the best is going to be the guy.
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:58 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
Alabama should be extremely good at interior OL. The trajectory of the offense has A LOT to do with the tackle positions. They really only need to be adequate for Alabama to be able to do a lot with their advantages at guard and center.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:01 pm to Diego Ricardo
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The trajectory of the offense has A LOT to do with the tackle positions. They really only need to be adequate for Alabama to be able to do a lot with their advantages at guard and center.
Very true, and the emphasis on the quick passing game in DeBoer's scheme should really help early on as the new Tackles gain experience.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:08 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
If the tackles become a strength, the offense would be in exceptional position to flourish. Part of the problem for the tackles last year was on the QB both pre-snap and post-snap. My hope is we see a dramatic improvement in communication pre-snap between the center, QB, and the rest of the linemen. I believe half or more of our sacks last year were due to simply being in the dead-arse wrong protection scheme and the other half were due to Milroe not being decisive with getting the ball out on time.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:11 pm to Diego Ricardo
Cool interview with Wommack where Wommack talks about his conversations with Saban, his philosophies on defense, and how he's approaching being the DC for Bama (spoiler, he'll be calling plays from the sideline!):
Kane Wommack details meetings with Nick Saban about Alabama's defense
Kane Wommack details meetings with Nick Saban about Alabama's defense
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 12:25 pm to Marktastic86
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A head coach doesn't choose their QB by who's most popular. Whoever executes this new offense to the highest level in practice will win the job.
This right here is the correct answer especially when it comes to being the new HC following Nick Saban.
Saban had the luxury of considering things like seniority and winning the locker room when picking the starting quarterback because his seat was never going to be hot. DeBoer and this new coaching staff have to know they don’t have that long a leash and they have to win now, so I don’t think they are going to care much about winning the team, the team will get behind a winner at QB no matter what. If it’s Milroe that’s great, but I don’t think it’s just an automatic decision that he’s going to start.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:25 pm to Alfie Solomons
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Saban had the luxury of considering things like seniority and winning the locker room when picking the starting quarterback because his seat was never going to be hot.
Saban considered who gave us the best chance at winning last season, and it was Milroe. How anyone in their right mind can deny this after the USF debacle is beyond me.
That being said, that does not mean that Milroe is going to be handed the starting QB spot in 2024. We have some talented dudes on our roster, and if Mack is what they are saying he is, he absolutely has a good shot to win it.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:46 pm to Funky Tide 8
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the USF debacle is beyond me.
The USF debacle wasn't as simple as some want to pretend. Milroe wouldn't have fared any better than Simpson, if he had been out there. Go watch the CFB Nerds video about the offense last year, and specifically, that game.
Maybe Milroe was the best choice last year, due to a lot of things we couldn't get fixed fast enough. I'm not sure he was, but the coaches made a choice and they had more info than any of us did.
But, none of that matters this year.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:57 pm to Teague
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:57 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Saban considered who gave us the best chance at winning last season, and it was Milroe. How anyone in their right mind can deny this after the USF debacle is beyond me.
I don’t think anyone would strongly disagree that at the time of the USF game Milroe probably was the best option out of several not so good options, hopefully a locker room popularity contest wasn’t part of the decision making process.
You can say whatever you want, but if you are denying that at points in his tenure Saban valued some things more than pure performance when selecting who started at QB you are lying to yourself.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:11 pm to Alfie Solomons
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You can say whatever you want, but if you are denying that at points in his tenure Saban valued some things more than pure performance when selecting who started at QB you are lying to yourself.
I'd say that the only time this happened was was Jalen and Tua when Tua was a true freshman.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:13 pm to Teague
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Milroe wouldn't have fared any better than Simpson, if he had been out there.
That's pure speculation, and I don't buy it.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:28 pm to Funky Tide 8
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That's pure speculation, and I don't buy it.
You don't have to buy it. I'm not even trying to sell it. You can believe whatever you want. People go around believing all sorts of things against sage my advice. ;)
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
Ultimately, I think the player performed poorly but they were not very well prepared by the offensive staff. The problems that sunk Alabama in the Rose Bowl were problems they had all season on offense.
Alabama was as bad as they had been since the aughts in offensive performance v. power conference competition. It was one thing when you have Shula probation rosters. It is another thing when you have a top 3 roster in college football by some metrics.
These players were simply poorly coached and it showed on the football field. Some of it may have been inherited problems but it is telling that only the RB coach was retained from the offensive staff. Noteworthy because RB coach is usually where you stash your best recruiter who may not be a top-end technician. Anyone who coached a very technical position on offense was gone as soon as Saban retired.
Alabama was as bad as they had been since the aughts in offensive performance v. power conference competition. It was one thing when you have Shula probation rosters. It is another thing when you have a top 3 roster in college football by some metrics.
These players were simply poorly coached and it showed on the football field. Some of it may have been inherited problems but it is telling that only the RB coach was retained from the offensive staff. Noteworthy because RB coach is usually where you stash your best recruiter who may not be a top-end technician. Anyone who coached a very technical position on offense was gone as soon as Saban retired.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:44 pm to Diego Ricardo
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These players were simply poorly coached and it showed on the football field.
I couldn’t agree more, and amazingly we still made the playoffs and were an OT win away from making to the championship game.
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